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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    No, I personally don't care either way. I was telling you about CPR and success rates. It seems odd that you don't understand what I've been telling you. As for your thinking it would have done any good, believe what you will.
    Why wouldn't you care either way? It's success rate, while low, is still a success rate. And it's further lowered because it is often not applied properly, or applied too late.

    You, as a health care worker, don't care that CPR wasn't performed on an unconscious man by police or EMS?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not considered by who....the Grand Jury? What were they considering for charges, do you know? I'm trying to find the details on the internet but I can't find it.
    The fact that the GJ didn't even so much as bring forward a manslaughter charge shows that it wasn't considered. C'mon tres. You can't be blind to what happened here. Police tried to arrest a guy for selling bootleg cigarettes. He was handled in a way banned by the NYPD. There was no evidence he was selling bootleg cigarettes. Guy is now dead and a ****ty police officer is probably on paid leave.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Civil society doesn't tolerate cops killing people over a stupid thing like selling loose cigarettes.

    None of your GD business if he was fat..has nothing to do with it, you are trying to make cognitive dissonance to justify a cop killing an unarmed man for such a petty offense.

    Go ahead and arm up, and fantasize about society gone nuts.

    You are the one justifying this terrible offense.
    The only offense I saw was his horrible obesity.

    If you disagree with the tax laws then lets rebel together and change things. I recommend you begin by contacting your local state senator and state representative. Demand that they petition the Congress for an Article V convention of states to propose amendments.

    I admire your emotions. That poor fat slob should have simply allowed arrest 32 to continue and our ineffective judicial system would have had his fat butt back out on the streets selling individual cigarettes in no time. I would not be surprised if he was one of the fifty million Americans being carried by the rest of us through the welfare system. I don't know that to be true but don't many low grade common criminals depend upon welfare for the bulk of their "living"?

    When the police choose to no longer act then arming up will be your remaining remedy. In the end only you are responsible for your safety.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Really?

    *googles

    Oh man, it's true.

    You don't think so? It seems pretty obvious. If you do something that causes another person to die who otherwise wouldn't have, you can be charged with some sort of homicide.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Given that he said that do you think he was choked out while he was saying he could not breathe?
    Maybe he just needed a cigarette.
    He never got that chance now did he?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Why wouldn't you care either way? It's success rate, while low, is still a success rate. And it's further lowered because it is often not applied properly, or applied too late.

    You, as a health care worker, don't care that CPR wasn't performed on an unconscious man by police or EMS?
    I wasn't there, I didn't see what was going on, and I had no control over the situation, but no, I don't care either way. If there was a legal obligation for them to do so, I'm sure that will come out during the investigative process. But do I care? No. It was cops, not nurses.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The only offense I saw was his horrible obesity.

    If you disagree with the tax laws then lets rebel together and change things. I recommend you begin by contacting your local state senator and state representative. Demand that they petition the Congress for an Article V convention of states to propose amendments.

    I admire your emotions. That poor fat slob should have simply allowed arrest 32 to continue and our ineffective judicial system would have had his fat butt back out on the streets selling individual cigarettes in no time. I would not be surprised if he was one of the fifty million Americans being carried by the rest of us through the welfare system. I don't know that to be true but don't many low grade common criminals depend upon welfare for the bulk of their "living"?

    When the police choose to no longer act then arming up will be your remaining remedy. In the end only you are responsible for your safety.
    Obesity isn't punishable by death.

    You want to justify the killing of someone over something so freaking petty.

    You are using obesity as your cognitive dissonance. You are the one blood dancing here and praising the actions of an overactive police using deadly force for a silly thing that should be no more than a summons.

    Sounds like you are the one licking the jackboots.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The fact that the GJ didn't even so much as bring forward a manslaughter charge shows that it wasn't considered. C'mon tres. You can't be blind to what happened here. Police tried to arrest a guy for selling bootleg cigarettes. He was handled in a way banned by the NYPD. There was no evidence he was selling bootleg cigarettes. Guy is now dead and a ****ty police officer is probably on paid leave.
    Huh? I don't think you've read my posts in this thread my friend. I didn't say that the cop is not culpable of something here. I don't really care about the bootleg cigs. I asked what the charges were the GJ was supposed to consider, that's all. I asked because I don't know. I know what the Ferguson GJ was asked to consider.

    My husband just said this cop was suspended without pay in July according to everything he's heard on the news and read on the net?
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Have you actually read the responses in this thread? The decision by the GJ has been criticized by far left wingers, tough on crime right wingers and libertarians. Who has defended it? The same 6-7 people who get accused of being closeted racists. Who else? The same 6-7 posters that will defend cops no matter the circumstance because of the bull**** line that they have a hard job to do.

    That you're trying to paint Goshin - a former cop - as someone who is accustomed to running from the law is pretty ****ing laughable if not downright ridiculous. What? Ockham is accustomed to running from the law? Digsbe too? What about notabene? PerfectStorm? Is he accustomed to running from the law? The Rev is accustomed to running from the law too? Μολὼν λαβέ is accustomed to running from the law? You're looking ridiculously silly in your assertion. Get the **** outta here with that bull**** before someone a little less restricted in their words decides to call you on it.
    What you are saying is that emotion trumps logic.

    EVeryone "feels" that something wrong occurred. So, therefore it must have.

    But the grand jury who reviewed the evidence for a crime found there to be insufficient evidence to charge anyone with a crime. And that is justice.

    To deny that is to invite tyrants into our homes.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You of course realize I just tried to lick my elbow to see if you're right.

    You're right. On both counts.
    Yeah. But can you stick your head up your *** like many of the posters here have done? LOL. If they already have then perhaps you can too.

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