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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you can't breath, you can't talk. This guy felt he couldn't breath because of chest compression . . . says Coroner MaggieD.
    Yes, but heart trauma also can cause this. A person with a weak heart can not pump the oxygen fast enough - thus the person can't catch their breathe. That is why if a person is having difficulty breathing goes to ER they will do an EKG - though seemingly the lungs and heart are not related to each other.

    The heart of a 400 pound older guy under stress and attack likely is going to experience breathing difficulty- which is really a heart issue, the heart already aged and strained having to deal with 400 pounds. As the video shows, when the chock hold released the heart rate soars - poising danger of everything from heart attack to stroke (freeing a clot) to blood vessel in brain bursting. I suspect that under all those stresses and demands his heart threw in the towel.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    If I scare the **** out of an old person, and they have a heart attack and die, am I a murderer?


    If one of those dudes on the "Biggest Loser" has a stroke while being pushed to do one more rep, is the trainer a murderer?
    Sure, you could be held liable if you scared or overworked someone to death (I'm sure they make people on the Biggest Loser sign a waiver though).
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Chase View Post
    Would that be this video:
    http://youtu.be/lh_pfO92qB4
    That is a darned poor right shoulder arms.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    If I scare the **** out of an old person, and they have a heart attack and die, am I a murderer?


    If one of those dudes on the "Biggest Loser" has a stroke while being pushed to do one more rep, is the trainer a murderer?
    This isn't pushing someone to do one more rep or scaring the **** out of someone. This is a situation where the cop actually physically caused the death of the man by choking him.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    If I scare the **** out of an old person, and they have a heart attack and die, am I a murderer?


    If one of those dudes on the "Biggest Loser" has a stroke while being pushed to do one more rep, is the trainer a murderer?
    Interesting questions.

    If an 18 year olds tosses something off a highway overpass in front of a car and it causes the driver to be startled and have a heart attack is he charged with murder?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Some people just don't get how the rule of law works. You don't get to resist arrest, no matter how petty the crime. You submit to the arresting officer because that's what the law requires you to do.

    If you get injured or killed trying to resist arrest, that's on you and nobody else. The cop shouldn't have to put himself in danger because you're being a dumbass.
    Yes, you are not the only person on the forum who believes that anything but instance and absolute submission to government authority is an automatic death sentence - or at least a beating sentence. You are not the only person here who equates government to God.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    I guess we have our answer as to whether or not attaching cameras to cops will increase the culpability of police misconduct.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So we are in agreement... they should have preformed CPR.
    No, I personally don't care either way. I was telling you about CPR and success rates. It seems odd that you don't understand what I've been telling you. As for your thinking it would have done any good, believe what you will.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    If I scare the **** out of an old person, and they have a heart attack and die, am I a murderer?


    If one of those dudes on the "Biggest Loser" has a stroke while being pushed to do one more rep, is the trainer a murderer?
    I don't know. But that's not what this is all about now is it?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Sure, you could be held liable if you scared or overworked someone to death (I'm sure they make people on the Biggest Loser sign a waiver though).
    Really?

    *googles

    Oh man, it's true.


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