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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Who says I'm anti-cpr. I've been doing CPR for 30 years, and I'm ACLS certified. I'm just telling you that the success rates aren't impressive, and frankly, your links show that to be the case. Discharged from the hospital doesn't mean in good condition. It means they survived physically. Like I said, I've only seen one person (out in the field) who survived it with his mind totally intact, and he was physically screwed by the paralysis afterward.
    So we are in agreement... they should have preformed CPR.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Ack my head hurts.

    Cop was very wrong for breaking department policy and using the chokehold. He was punished for that as he should have been, however he should not have been charged with murder. It wasn't intentional murder.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    No... Never once did he swat at the police. He flailed a bit in his own personal space and tried to retract his arms after the cops grabbed his arm. I dont get why you are posting some "thug" stuff that has nothing to do with the event captured on video. Your tactic seems to be "The cops wrong doing should be ignored because it would be a shame to punish him killing someone who was a "thug". Thats a pretty crappy tactic.
    They weren't punishing him, they were trying to arrest him.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Some people have always done what they shouldn't do.

    Why did the cop use an illegal choke-hold and why did the grand jury give him a pass?
    Because don't you get it? He was arrested 31 times... and he was selling bootleg cigarettes... and once he kicked a puppy!
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    He got more than a headache. Can you imagine the terror the man felt begging for his life ("I can't breathe", multiple times) with no affect?
    Given that he said that do you think he was choked out while he was saying he could not breathe?
    Maybe he just needed a cigarette.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Many things will cause death if a person has a heart issue. A tazer. Chasing the person. Wrestling the person to the ground. Just the stress of arresting someone could do it. The list of what can cause a person to die if the person has a heart condition is nearly endless.

    The coroner did rule it was a "homicide" - which doesn't make that a fact but certainly is relevant. I haven't read the coroner's report, though. Have you? What did the coroner say caused the death?


    He didn't have a heart attack when he was breaking up the fight! The cops caused his death. There is no question of that.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Ack my head hurts.

    Cop was very wrong for breaking department policy and using the chokehold. He was punished for that as he should have been, however he should not have been charged with murder. It wasn't intentional murder.
    The problem people have with this is that manslaughter should have been considered.... and it wasn't.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So he killed himself? Not according to the coroner's report. The cop killed him. It was ruled a homicide, not a suicide.
    If I scare the **** out of an old person, and they have a heart attack and die, am I a murderer?


    If one of those dudes on the "Biggest Loser" has a stroke while being pushed to do one more rep, is the trainer a murderer?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem people have with this is that manslaughter should have been considered.... and it wasn't.
    Not considered by who....the Grand Jury? What were they considering for charges, do you know? I'm trying to find the details on the internet but I can't find it.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Because don't you get it? He was arrested 31 times... and he was selling bootleg cigarettes... and once he kicked a puppy!
    Some people just don't get how the rule of law works. You don't get to resist arrest, no matter how petty the crime. You submit to the arresting officer because that's what the law requires you to do.

    If you get injured or killed trying to resist arrest, that's on you and nobody else. The cop shouldn't have to put himself in danger because you're being a dumbass.

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