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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Who made that happen?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    I'm waiting to read the testimonies before I make any judgement on this.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    then you didn't read the coroner's report.
    The New York Medical Examiner has ruled Garner's death a homicide. The cause of death was "compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police."
    I see three things mentioned.
    The cause of death was:
    1) compression of neck (chokehold),
    2) compression of chest
    3) and prone positioning during physical restraint by police."
    One-third chokehold. Two thirds absolute fatass. Hmmm. What to think. A very fat man resists arrest and dies of a heart attack while being arrested. Oh, and the most important thing to consider was the color of all of their skins.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    you must not realize how much damage a few seconds of cutting off the jugular vein can be.... Its very relevant.
    If it is all the same with you I am done with you until you bring some relevant facts.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    (Do not) try this; have someone place you in a choke hold and see if you can breathe. I'll bet you get out a few "I can't breathe" statements before passing out, or maybe dying.

    The point is he can't breathe now, can he? Who made that happen?
    His heart attack.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I'm waiting to read the testimonies before I make any judgement on this.
    Are they releasing the testimonies like they did in the Fergie case?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Amadeus, they didn't tackle and choke him because he wasn't paying a tax. They took him to the ground because he resisted arrest.

    People!!! Tell your damned kids, family and friends to fight the coppers in the courtroom not on the street. We've lost hundreds of thousands of men in battlefields to give you that right. Jesus!!

    So why was the pressure not released from his neck once that had "control" of him/the situation?

    Heck...why was a air restriction hold used in the first place?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The New York Medical Examiner has ruled Garner's death a homicide. The cause of death was "compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police."
    I see three things mentioned.
    The cause of death was:
    1) compression of neck (chokehold),
    2) compression of chest
    3) and prone positioning during physical restraint by police."
    One-third chokehold. Two thirds absolute fatass. Hmmm. What to think. A very fat man resists arrest and dies of a heart attack while being arrested. Oh, and the most important thing to consider was the color of all of their skins.

    You sound almost gleeful
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, those other 31 times he'd been caught for the same thing don't mean a thing.


    So they "assumed" he was guilty just because he had done it before?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, even that isn't likely. I rarely see a case brought in to the ER in which cpr was done, and the patient went on to live any semblance of a life at all, and they almost never survive the initial incident. If he had survived, it's very likely that he would have had profound and lasting brain damage. In my entire life as an RN, I've seen one successful case of CPR in the field, that resulted in good mental recovery, but he was a paraplegic after he was kept alive.
    In this article discussing the low return on investment of CPR, it has these statistics:

    A 2012 study showed that only about 2% of adults who collapse on the street and receive CPR recover fully. Another from 2009 (PDF) showed that anywhere from 4% to 16% of patients who received bystander CPR were eventually discharged from the hospital. About 18% of seniors who receive CPR at the hospital survive to be discharged, according to a third study (PDF).
    Those are solid enough for me. And in those cases, they were performed by bystanders who probably have received little to no training. Obviously technique is important:

    In some cities that have less CPR training, the survival rate is indeed low, Sayre says. But in other metropolitan areas with strong training programs and quick EMS response times, half or more victims survive.
    I'm sorry, but I'm going to remain pro-CPR.
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