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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Right, well, those aren't exactly the types of chest compressions I was referring to. lol
    I know what you meant. I just think the whole incident could have been avoided. How many times does a guy on the ground being restrained by 4 or more cops have to say he can't breathe before the cop who killed him takes another approach to his restraint technique?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    You of course realize I just tried to lick my elbow to see if you're right.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    I see. I understand that. But surely there's an exception to that for unhealthy people. And then there's that disallowed chokehold. And the non-responsiveness to his "I can't breathe, I can't breathe, I can't breathe."

    Awful. I support policemen. They have a dangerous job and have to make split second decisions. But this seems different to me. I think maybe they should've just left him alone or given him another ticket. He's not selling ciggies at that particular time. He's being respectful.

    I don't know. So sad. It didn't have to happen.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you can't breath, you can't talk. This guy felt he couldn't breath because of chest compression . . . says Coroner MaggieD.
    I think he had a heart attack. Often, one of the tell-tale signs of a heart attack is shortness of breath.

    I read up on this case a little bit more, and confirmed it. He died of coronary problems, not suffocation.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    When the cops tackle and choke an unarmed black man for not paying 5 cent taxes on his cigarette singles, that form of government tyranny is okay for some conservatives.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    At first I was wondering why you were attacking CPR, but then I reread my post and noticed the word easily. Yes, that was poor wording. What I was trying to say was that it could have definitely saved his life. It may not have, but to keep the circulation of blood moving, and possibly provide some oxygen is certainly helpful.
    Well, even that isn't likely. I rarely see a case brought in to the ER in which cpr was done, and the patient went on to live any semblance of a life at all, and they almost never survive the initial incident. If he had survived, it's very likely that he would have had profound and lasting brain damage. In my entire life as an RN, I've seen one successful case of CPR in the field, that resulted in good mental recovery, but he was a paraplegic after he was kept alive.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    When the cops tackle and choke an unarmed black man for not paying 5 cent taxes on his cigarette singles, that form of government tyranny is okay for some conservatives.
    Amadeus, they didn't tackle and choke him because he wasn't paying a tax. They took him to the ground because he resisted arrest.

    People!!! Tell your damned kids, family and friends to fight the coppers in the courtroom not on the street. We've lost hundreds of thousands of men in battlefields to give you that right. Jesus!!
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I did see the video. He said several times that he couldn't breath. My point, insignificant though it is, is that he could breath. If he couldn't breath? He couldn't TALK. Try it yourself. You'll find it's impossible...like licking your elbow.
    (Do not) try this; have someone place you in a choke hold and see if you can breathe. I'll bet you get out a few "I can't breathe" statements before passing out, or maybe dying.

    The point is he can't breathe now, can he? Who made that happen?
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Have you actually read the responses in this thread? The decision by the GJ has been criticized by far left wingers, tough on crime right wingers and libertarians. Who has defended it? The same 6-7 people who get accused of being closeted racists. Who else? The same 6-7 posters that will defend cops no matter the circumstance because of the bull**** line that they have a hard job to do.

    That you're trying to paint Goshin - a former cop - as someone who is accustomed to running from the law is pretty ****ing laughable if not downright ridiculous. What? Ockham is accustomed to running from the law? Digsbe too? What about notabene? PerfectStorm? Is he accustomed to running from the law? The Rev is accustomed to running from the law too? Μολὼν λαβέ is accustomed to running from the law? You're looking ridiculously silly in your assertion. Get the **** outta here with that bull**** before someone a little less restricted in their words decides to call you on it.

    The same posters who defended the welfare queen Cliven Bundy and all the militia whackjobs at his ranch aiming rifles into crowds of law enforcement officials...go figure.
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