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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    If Goshin or whoever posted it earlier is right and the chokehold was/is a prohibited action by NYPD (I need to ask my BIL but believe Goshin), then the cop seems to be guilty of something. Manslaughter? I don't know the law. But this is light years away from the Michael Brown situation. I'm not sure I agree with the Grand Jury of this one.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Chase View Post
    Would that be this video:
    http://youtu.be/lh_pfO92qB4
    Thank you!

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    As I recall, none were performed until paramedics arrived many minutes later. Without even doing the breathing part, simple chest compressions alone could have easily saved this man.

    *Edit:

    Actually, EMS workers apparently did not perform CPR either??? Not sure.
    Not likely. CPR in a hospital setting, when the patient is already there, and the crash is observed, already has a poor rate of success, and that's with availability of defibrillators, pacers, drugs, iv fluids, and high levels of oxygen. Ini the field, CPR has a VERY poor rate of success, and the longer it is delayed, the worse the prognosis.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post


    Wow, Peter. That first video is amazing. Thank you!

    DirtPoorChris -- I stand corrected.

    I didn't watch the second video since the Vulcan Death Grip doesn't count. That IS Mr. Spock, yes?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm not claiming the grand jury was corrupt; I'm claiming the grand jury was wrong.

    When did I posit that we give up grand juries?
    Do you have a remedy? Or were you simply musing in our presence?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    He got more than a headache. Can you imagine the terror the man felt begging for his life ("I can't breathe", multiple times) with no affect?
    If you can't breath, you can't talk. This guy felt he couldn't breath because of chest compression . . . says Coroner MaggieD.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Are you saying its ok to choke non-violent fat people or something? I see no logic in your arguement.
    It helps to begin with evidence. Given that you lack it I am not surprised by your response.

    Catch up first. Then, if you bring some facts to the discussion we can interact.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    He wasn't given chest compressions... and why would they kill him anyway? That makes no sense at all.
    He was given chest compressions. The cop compressed his throat and his chest, thereby killing him, which is a homicide.

    The New York Medical Examiner has ruled Garner's death a homicide. The cause of death was "compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police."
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Jesus...
    ...he did not resist arrest and was lawfully executed for treason by the Roman state.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You object to the law. Fine. The right response is a tax revolt. We are Taxed Enough Already. Oh wait! Did I just do that? TEA Party. Now there is an idea whose time has come.

    He committed suicide over at least two decades. He was morbidly obese. Have you arrived at the position that police may not arrest anyone who chooses not to be arrested?

    Cool. That should help bring down what is left of the civil society.

    Arm up. You are going to need it.
    Civil society doesn't tolerate cops killing people over a stupid thing like selling loose cigarettes.

    None of your GD business if he was fat..has nothing to do with it, you are trying to make cognitive dissonance to justify a cop killing an unarmed man for such a petty offense.

    Go ahead and arm up, and fantasize about society gone nuts.

    You are the one justifying this terrible offense.
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