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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Sometimes ago I saw a Youtube video (probably in this forum)of a middle age white guy holding some kind of automatic rifle in his hand on the sidewalk of a busy street just loitering around. When the police was called by concerned citizen he was still standing there with his weapon and the officer took a long time and patiently reasoned to him across the street that he needs to put down the weapon and show his ID and permit so that the police could verify.

    It took a long time to get this uncooperative guy to finally cooperate. And there was no lethal tactics of any kind used against this guy for resisting police investigation.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    That may be true but it was not relevant in this case.
    you must not realize how much damage a few seconds of cutting off the jugular vein can be.... Its very relevant.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    I see. I understand that. But surely there's an exception to that for unhealthy people. And then there's that disallowed chokehold. And the non-responsiveness to his "I can't breathe, I can't breathe, I can't breathe."

    Awful. I support policemen. They have a dangerous job and have to make split second decisions. But this seems different to me. I think maybe they should've just left him alone or given him another ticket. He's not selling ciggies at that particular time. He's being respectful.

    I don't know. So sad. It didn't have to happen.

    The disallowed chokehold I'll give you. I think the NYPD should reprimand, punish, or even fire the officer for that. If I were the police chief, I'd fire him.

    I don't think a criminal indictment against him is warranted though. It's not like it was just two individuals who got in a fight, and one guy died. That would be manslaughter. This is a case of police officers trying to do their job, and something went wrong in the course of doing that. They should be given more leeway.

    As for whether he was selling cigarettes - notice the one officer making the arrest was dressed as a civilian, most likely it was a sting where he went in undercover and "bought" illegal goods from this man, which resulted in the arrest.

    I don't think he looked that sickly or unhealthy. To me, he just looks like a very large and powerful man, and he looks very agitated and uncooperative.

    The whole thing is very sad though, I agree. Especially over such a stupid and minor crime. And it couldn't have come at a worse time for us as a country.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Is anyone able to explain why no CPR or chest compressions were given?
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Doesn't that frighten you that the Justice Department is intruding into local events? It does me. You are encouraging the growing tyranny. Do you believe you are immune to it?
    Civil Rights violations are a serious matter.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Is anyone able to explain why no CPR or chest compressions were given?
    Because no one cries for "thugs"? *shrugs*
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    you must not realize how much damage a few seconds of cutting off the jugular vein can be.... Its very relevant.
    What is the effect of cutting off the jugular vein for a few seconds? (I believe it might be a headache...maybe.)
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Is anyone able to explain why no CPR or chest compressions were given?
    How do you know they weren't?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Again and again and again. I don't blame people one bit for protesting. This is disgusting.


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    How do you know they weren't?
    As I recall, none were performed until paramedics arrived many minutes later. Without even doing the breathing part, simple chest compressions alone could have easily saved this man.

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    Actually, EMS workers apparently did not perform CPR either??? Not sure.
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