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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Or he shouldn't have resisted arrest. It didn't look like anyone intended to injure him from the edited video I saw. It looked like they were trying to restrain a very large man who was resisting arrest.
    If a person resists arrest (non voilently) then im sorry.... But you gotta work harder for your arrest. Its annoying. But oh well. Does not justify lethality or violence. So it takes a little longer to get his hands behind his back. Well thats what their paycheck is for buddy. When most people slack on their job or take shortcuts it doesnt end up with death. The victim wasnt violent. Non-complaint and not hurting anyone is totally different than trying to hurt someone.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He wasn't choked to death. The autopsy shows there was no damage to his windpipe.
    Yes he was...

    The New York Medical Examiner has ruled Garner's death a homicide. The cause of death was "compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police."
    Pretty sure chokeholds are outlawed by NYC cops.

    “I can't breathe!” Garner could be heard screaming. “I can’t breathe!”

    But Pantaleo did not let go. He was seen forcing Garner’s face into the concrete.
    Eric Garner

    N.Y. cop not indicted in chokehold death - CNN.com
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Well here's the full video

    Oh, God. Awful. He's too fat to be pushed to the ground like that. He repeatedly tells them he can't breathe. They should've let him up....he was weak at that point.

    They should've just walked away and left him alone. Bizarre. I wonder if a store owner in the area paid the cops to get rid of the guy for interfering with their cigarette business. That's how bizarre the police actions seem to me.

    This is just an older, fat, black man trying to make a few bucks. He's not knocking over a store or out running red lights or driving drunk.

    Geez.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Did you watch the video? You call that resisting arrest?
    I did. And I do.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    This cop prolly learned his choke hold in a MMA self defense crash course paid for by average citizens and decided he wanted to play with it and test it out on a giant.

    Uggg.. I finally watched teh vid. The cop got him ina blood choke. He probably enacted a stroke by stopping blood to the brain for a few seconds. Hence why the guy keeps saying "I cant breath" after the cop let up a bit. It only takes a 2-3 seconds to effect the brain when your blood gets cut off at the neck. Some people can take it for more. Some people die after just a couple.

    Like "the choking game" some kids die after the fact not exactly when the choke is going on.

    Its insane that instead of giving the dude cpr or some **** they all just sorta lounge around as he is dying in front of their eyes.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It contributed to his death - unless you're claiming he would have had a coronary and dropped dead right there if the police didn't drag him to the ground and choke him.

    And that's what I'm missing in this case.... I want to see a jury look at that evidence and make a ruling. In this particular case, it warranted a jury reviewing what the police did and how they did it.
    Really? You want a jury even when a group of citizens determines there is insufficient evidence? Why would you want that? The grand jury is there to prevent government tyranny. Why would you throw that safeguard away?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    So he deserved to be choked to death? Which chokehold is against the law in NY?
    Do any of you read before you post? I only wonder as I see NO evidence of it.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What is a cop supposed to do when a subject says, "**** you, I'm not going”?
    Good question. At this stage in the game, if the cop happens to be white, and the wrongdoer is black, for his/her sake it would be best to turn a blind eye to the illegal activity to save their ass from being crucified in the news and sacrificed at the alter of Eric Holder, Obama and Al Sharpton for doing their job. If the criminal is black, don't shoot if he comes at you, just walk/run away and save yourself. If he/she happens to be white, go ahead and shoot and use any means necessary to apprehend the criminal. And for God sake don't use force to subdue a black person if they resist arrest. You don't want to be accused of profiling or police brutality. After all what's the harm in driving without a license, possessing drugs, selling items in the black market and impersonation. (which is what Garner was arrested for and out on bail...his 30th f-ing arrest when he was caught selling black market cigs by an undercover cop!)

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Based only on what I saw in the video, I sure don't understand why the cop wasn't charged with SOMEthing.
    AND ... I know the death was declared a homicide from the chokehold BUT also that Garner had asthma, HBP, and was obese which they said also contributed to it.
    Maybe that had something to do with the GJ decision.
    What would you charge him with? Be specific. The prosecutor would have to be.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Here we go....

    This is how BS false narratives like " hands up dont shoot " get their beginnings.

    He wasn't choked to death. The Coroners report proves that.
    This is NOT fair. You ONLY KNOW THAT because you did some reading before posting.

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