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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Just saw the video for the first time. How the grand jury came to that conclusion is beyond me.
    Did you see all of the evidence the Grand Jury saw? It is okay that it is beyond you.

    Volunteer to serve on a grand jury.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I doubt very much that you'll see anything close to what happened in Ferguson. New Yorkers make a lot of noise but, as a rule, they're not into wrecking their neighborhood.
    We like our neighborhood very much. Do you have any idea how much it cost to live here?!

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ohhh justifying the state killing someone. How "libertarian" of you.
    This guy was ****ing the state out of it's tax money. That's a crime punishable by death in Libbo Land.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This guy was ****ing the state out of it's tax money. That's a crime punishable by death in Libbo Land.
    Never seen that advocated.


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Where in that link does it say he was breaking up a fight? He was approached by undercover officers because he was known to sell illegal merchandise. He recognized them as cops and decided to "fight back".
    Why do people think they are persuasive if they deliberately post something everyone knows is false?

    At no point did he fight back. You know it. Everyone who has seen the video knows it.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Keep backing these killers. You're just like Fenton.

    These types of police actions need to be dealt with. Perhaps with enough media attention, and with help of the White House and Congress, something can finally be done about this travesty.
    Those with tyrannical hearts always speak this way.

    Civilians, members of the community, saw the evidence the prosecutor had and determined there was insufficient evidence to prove a crime had occurred. I trust non-governmental civilians. They get it right most of the time.

    It is time for the police to arm up and this time shoot the arsonists.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    Wel, I don't agree with that being an excuse, but the man DID have health problems. He had asthma. Plus you could look at him and see he was unhealthy. He was morbidly obese. But because of his bad health, they should've released or let up when he said he couldn't breathe.
    The cop who killed him could have at least taken his knee, using his complete body weight as leverage, off the man's head.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Why was the guy resisting arrest? Cop should not be indicted for doing his job.

    If the black community wants to picket and riot about something, then do something about the crime in your own neighborhoods.
    Did you see the comment by TheDemSocialist that the choke hold was prohibited and against protocol? That means he was not "doing his job." This incident is totally different from the Brown incident.

    But reasonable people want to know all of the evidence before reaching a conclusion. What I read says that Garner told them he couldn't breathe. If that's true, I am flabbergasted they didn't let up on the disallowed choke hold. IF they didn't let up on it.

    But in all things, policeman have to weigh actions with consequences with possibles crimes, it seems to me. Selling ciggies with no tax is just not a big deal. Something you'd give a ticket for. Not arrest for. It's not serious like, say, running a red light. You don't want to turn a minor offense into, say, the death of someone. Especially using a choke hold that is against protocol.

    I am surprised by the no indictment. But then I haven't seen all the evidence.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreetVixen View Post
    We like our neighborhood very much. Do you have any idea how much it cost to live here?!
    That depends. Do you live indoors or outdoors?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Having watched the video many times, in my opinion he should not have been arrested, he should not have been taken to the ground, his head not shoved into concrete and no neck or choke hold used.

    That said, it was not manslaughter or murder. Charges such as assault, official oppression, and reckless endangerment would have been more applicable.

    Thank sue-em-all lawyers for why police are not indicted. NYC would face a mega million dollar lawsuit with such indictment and conviction.

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