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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The GJ may have decided that the man's poor health played a significant factor in his death and that it was a direct result of resisting arrest.





    N.Y. cop not indicted in chokehold death - CNN.com
    What the ****? Those didnt contribute to his death at all... A man choking him did. Pretty simple. You squeeze a mans neck too much and he dies.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hari Seldon View Post
    Yea but you don't kill the squeegee men near the Lincoln Tunnel. You use some common sense. I have a friend who a NYC cop for 20 years. He was assigned to remove the homeless as part of stopping the small things. So he offered the guy a happy meal if he came with him to the station. He got OT and easy duty while the homeless guy got a meal and a place to sleep. A win, win. I'm sure there was a better way to handle the situation.
    So you wanted to kill him with Happy Meal instead of arresting him yet one more time?

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Just watching the video there should have been charges. This appears to not have been done in self defense and after he said "I can't breathe" they continued. I don't know the full story, but given what I see this was excessive force by the police resulting in death even after the suspect told them he couldn't breathe.

    It's completely unacceptable and if this is a legal use of force the laws need to be changed. Police are given FAR too much power when they are legally allowed to kill you in the process of apprehension and not acting in self defense.

    It looks like his intent wasn't to kill nor is this typically lethal, but with his asthma, obesity and other factors it resulted in death and they should have reacted when he said he couldn't breathe.
    What is a cop supposed to do when a subject says, "**** you, I'm not going”?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Nope, was not there. But you think cops just waltz up to someone and choke them out for kicks?
    I do! I do!

    Well, no. Not really. Do most cops actually know how to waltz?


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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Maybe not kill them, I don't know; that seems kind of reasonable.
    It looked like he died from decades of stupidity.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Chokeholds stop people from breathing. People need to breathe to live. Are you saying the cop was too dumb to figure this out? He was too dumb to know the chokehold was illegal"?
    It was not illegal. It violated the police department policy. He may be disciplined for violating policy.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Government needs to be restricted to its proper roles and the freedom and liberties of the individual protected. That is how you maintain a Republic. If you read the posts I was responding to, you may have gotten a bit of context as to why these arguments were presented. But that would require a bit of intellectual integrity and honesty on your part.
    And that is the whole purpose of the once revered US Constitution. If you believe what you wrote then get your state to demand an Article V convention of states to propose amendments.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Characterizing him that way is a lie. There is no dispute he smashed the officer in the face. Are you claiming he "gently" slugged the officer in the face? That he was "gentle" in the store?
    Its not proven at all. If you look at the bruise on his face the heavy knuckle impact is down by his mouth while the faded, lighter finger impact part is up closer to his jaw joints. Unless Brown has upside down hands this means its more probably likely that Wilson punched himself after the fact.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What is a cop supposed to do when a subject says, "**** you, I'm not going”?
    Using reasonable force was choking him to death?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    It's par for the course though. Especially with this administration. They seem to be rather selective about the laws they choose to enforce and rather nasty to those who choose to enforce them anyway.
    Oh, no. You have ODS, I see. Obama Dysmorphic Syndrome, the mental condition whereby you tend to blame every negative thing in the world on the sitting President. There are 12 step programs for that.

    But seriously, this was the decision of a group of people who were the Grand Jurors. Had nothing to do with the Mayor or the President or the Justice Department.

    I'm shocked by the no-bill, too, but let's not try to blame people who had nothing to do with it.
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