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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I understand how this might be troubling to some people but the cop was effecting an arrest and using reasonable and necessary force to do so. It sucks that the guy died but I just don't see where malice or excessive force was used by the cops. This, unfortunately, falls into the same category as the person who gets hit by a car while crossing the street in the middle of the block at 3:00 in the morning wearing a black jacket.
    I appreciate what you're saying, but it still bothers me. This isn't a man that was physically hurting or threatening anyone, from what I can tell - he was basically committing a crime against the tax collectors. This isn't a man who was abusing or threatening the life of a police officer - the only time the officers would be threatened or subjected to bodily harm is when they enforced an arrest. As I mentioned earlier, why isn't this just the issuance of a summons and not an arrest? That's a big issue for me.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course it was homocide, but that doesn't mean it's murder.
    That's an important distinction - a homicide can be justified.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

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    NYPD cop in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted - NY Daily News




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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    What will be the reaction in NYC tonight as another grand jury chooses not to hand down an indictment for a white police officer who killed a black man who resisted arrest?
    THAT cop is guilty though...
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    THAT cop is guilty though...
    I'm not sure which cop you're referring to.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I appreciate what you're saying, but it still bothers me. This isn't a man that was physically hurting or threatening anyone, from what I can tell - he was basically committing a crime against the tax collectors. This isn't a man who was abusing or threatening the life of a police officer - the only time the officers would be threatened or subjected to bodily harm is when they enforced an arrest. As I mentioned earlier, why isn't this just the issuance of a summons and not an arrest? That's a big issue for me.
    When he continued to resist arrest he became a threat.

    The cops primary focus in these situations is control. If the suspect appears to be on the verge of becoming uncontrollable then the cop is going to do something to regain that control. Ideally that escalation will be a stepped response and only enough force to regain control will be utilized. In my experience that's exactly what you saw in the video.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    30 black men are killed by PD per 1,000,000.

    1 white man is killed by PD per 1,000,000.

    Micheal Brown's death is not an anomaly.


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Seems as though grand juries are allergic to indicting cops
    That would mean that the U.S. general populace is allergic to indicting cops, a claim I would look at with a jaundiced eye.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    THAT cop is guilty though...
    Of violating procedure yes. Was he let off by the department for that?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, his resisting arrest did that. Had the police been equipped with tasers he probably still would have died and then you'd be howling about police use of tasers.
    I forget cops do no wrong. Even when a video shows the police officer using a banned chokehold on someone resulting in his death. Your excuse, "ahh he was fat he was gonna die no matter what". Typical.


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