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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well that's just great ain't it...keep on going after cops, and before long there won't be anyone stupid enough to be one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Nice. In order to have cops, we have to allow them to take down and kill people guilty of misdemeanors.

    I disagree. I think we can have police protection from violent felons without living in a police state.
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    Strawman
    Hardly a strawman when we were talking about a case of five cops taking down someone who may have been guilty of a non violent misdemeanor at most and killing him in the process.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Hardly a strawman when we were talking about a case of five cops taking down someone who may have been guilty of a non violent misdemeanor at most and killing him in the process.
    It was the definition of a strawman argument...

    The set up:

    "...In order to have cops,..."

    No one was saying that.

    The take down...

    "...I disagree. I think we can have police protection from violent felons without living in a police state."

    Again, no one is disagreeing with that, and you effectively set up what you want to think I said, in order for you to set up the strawman, and then knock it down with your ending...Classic fail.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It was the definition of a strawman argument...

    The set up:

    "...In order to have cops,..."

    No one was saying that.

    The take down...

    "...I disagree. I think we can have police protection from violent felons without living in a police state."

    Again, no one is disagreeing with that, and you effectively set up what you want to think I said, in order for you to set up the strawman, and then knock it down with your ending...Classic fail.
    Then what, exactly, does
    keep on going after cops, and before long there won't be anyone stupid enough to be one.
    mean, anyway?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Then what, exactly, does


    mean, anyway?
    It means exactly what it says...While I think that looking at things like this are best looked at on a case by case basis, and I do actually agree that excessive force in this case was used, although probably for different reasons, I did not say what you created out of thin air, then tried to say that you didn't.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It means exactly what it says...While I think that looking at things like this are best looked at on a case by case basis, and I do actually agree that excessive force in this case was used, although probably for different reasons, I did not say what you created out of thin air, then tried to say that you didn't.
    I didn't actually create anything. You were the one who suggested that no one would be stupid enough to be a cop.

    But anyway, I have more confidence in the police than that. I think they are able to take care of a non violent misdemeanor with jeopardizing anyone's life. Moreover, I think we should expect them to do so.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I didn't actually create anything. You were the one who suggested that no one would be stupid enough to be a cop.

    But anyway, I have more confidence in the police than that. I think they are able to take care of a non violent misdemeanor with jeopardizing anyone's life. Moreover, I think we should expect them to do so.
    Absolutely, but if a detainee resists arrest, then they are going to get taken down, and should be.
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