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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    So he deserved to be choked to death? Which chokehold is against the law in NY?
    He wasn't choked to death! He died because he was too fat and out of shape to pick a fight with the cops.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
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    What will be the reaction in NYC tonight as another grand jury chooses not to hand down an indictment for a white police officer who killed a black man who resisted arrest?
    I wonder why your question is ONLY about the reaction and contains no reference to the incident itself?
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It contributed to his death - unless you're claiming he would have had a coronary and dropped dead right there if the police didn't drag him to the ground and choke him.

    And that's what I'm missing in this case.... I want to see a jury look at that evidence and make a ruling. In this particular case, it warranted a jury reviewing what the police did and how they did it.
    The "choke hold" had nothing to do with his death. He should have been honest with himself about his health, before he picked a fight with the cops.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The people that sit on this jury must be police officers.

    If ever there was a case of manslaughter, this was it.
    I gotta say I'm surprised by no indictment on this one. This seemed to me definitely out of order. The guy was merely selling ciggies without tax, and although he resisted arrest, he obviously is not a healthy person (obese, breathing heavily), and put him in a chokehold, and the guy says he can't breathe. Oh, my. I find this incident disturbing.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Yes and yes.
    I forget, aren't you an retired cop?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I forget cops do no wrong. Even when a video shows the police officer using a banned chokehold on someone resulting in his death. Your excuse, "ahh he was fat he was gonna die no matter what". Typical.
    The headline said it was banned. Reading one of the stories the choke hold was not banned. It was not illegal. It was against the police departments guidelines. The police officer should be disciplined for violating guidelines.

    I trust grand juries to get it right far more often than any other system we have devised thus far. What improvements to having your neighbors determine if the government can try you?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I forget, aren't you an retired cop?
    With your vast law enforcement experience what would you do different ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He wasn't choked to death! He died because he was too fat and out of shape to pick a fight with the cops.
    BS lies! He was killed by the cops, his death was ruled a homicide. He didn't pick the fight, these pussy cops did, all this over selling loose cigarettes.

    It may not matter however, I just heard Attorney General Eric Holder announce that there would be an investigation. Hopefully they will indict this murdering cop.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sunny Hostin, a black woman prosecutor who's commenting on CNN now on this issue, just made an interesting comment.

    She said she's been on the side of the push for cops to be outfitted with cameras so that when incidents happen there can be video of the events that courts and grand juries can see what happened and now we have this incident, fully videoed by a bystander, and it seems to have been irrelevant to the outcome of the grand jury.
    I think one has to review all of the evidence offered.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    The headline said it was banned. Reading one of the stories the choke hold was not banned. \
    Yes it was.
    "Eight-year NYPD veteran Daniel Pantaleo responds by putting his arm around Garner’s neck in a chokehold – banned under police policy –"
    Eric Garner: grand jury declines to indict NYPD officer over chokehold death | US news | The Guardian
    "Pantaleo responded by wrapping his arm around Garner's neck in what appeared to be a chokehold, which is banned under NYPD policy."
    Protests Erupt as Cop Cleared; Feds to Investigate - ABC News


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