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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    That's the way it looks to me, too.
    Didn't look that way to the grand jury who had access to far more of the evidence than you or I. Btw, the GJ determination was unanimous, all 23 of them, various races and economic classes.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Only someone who is dishonest would say those two statements are identical. The standard wasn't "consistent", because you were speaking in specifics.
    tres borrachos did demonstrate some consistency, one based on a blind that not breaking the law means no confrontation. If she claims she didn't, then she has to admit that not breaking the law as a way to avoid confrontation is a pretty ridiculous statement to make without knowing the specifics of each case. In this case, the confrontation was initiated at every point of the way by police officers and there was no confirmation that any law was ever broken. Do you deny that? Please tell me you do, it'll just show how little interest you have in actually coming up with a coherent response to the bludgeoning NYPD supporters have received.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why aren't you attacking the liberal establishment that has added taxes upon taxes upon taxes and constrained and restricted people from starting businesses?
    Did the "liberal establishment" choke a man to death?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And once again you move those goalposts when you are caught being dishonest. Where in that post you quoted did I say I disbelieved what the video taker was saying about there having been a fight? THAT was YOUR setup remember. You put that little lie together just a couple posts ago. You should learn to keep track.
    Move WHAT goalposts, you were the one who stated it was in the video. I asked you to provide it. First you claimed it was proven by the guy's commentary. Then you claimed it's in another video that we don't have access to. That's a bull**** cop out because you don't want to admit you don't have the evidence to back up that statement. You want to keep this going or you want to look even more dishonest? Here's the question:

    When did the police tell Eric Garner to move along?
    Last edited by Hatuey; 12-09-14 at 07:33 PM.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    "If you don't want confrontation with the police, don't break the law" ring any bells?
    Wow, Hatuey. Now I know you're just making troll posts. Kindly address your troll posts to someone else.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So, you further demonstrate that reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
    I'm just shaking my head. I can't remember the last time I saw so many trolling posts from one poster. Either that, or they are just utterly stupid posts. Not good either way.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Didn't look that way to the grand jury who had access to far more of the evidence than you or I. Btw, the GJ determination was unanimous, all 23 of them, various races and economic classes.
    Do you know how ignorant most people are of the law, legal terms and how influenced they can become by lawyers? It is amazing... I haven't seen anything other than the video but that alone shows enough evidence to go to Court.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Move WHAT goalposts, you were the one who stated it was in the video.

    I asked you to provide it. Then you claimed it's in another video that we don't have access to. That's a bull**** cop-out because you don't want to admit you don't have the evidence to back up that statement. You want to keep this going or you want to look even more dishonest? Here's the question:

    When did the police tell Eric Garner to move along?

    First bold: I stated that and guess what, at 50 seconds in the video taker states Eric was asked to move along. You didn't like that and so spouted off about how the video taker couldn't be trusted.

    Second bold: An outright lie. Where did I claim it was in another video. Again we're looking for exact quotes here, not your mischaracterization or lack of comprehension as to what is clearly written. Hint, the words "may be" are not the equivalent of the word "is". I'll wait for your quote. But not too long since I know you cannot provide it. So, once again you are being dishonest.

    Third bold: 50 seconds into your little video we hear it confirmed. We don't actually know at what point he was asked to move along. We'll know when they release all the info, including GJ testimony.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Do you know how ignorant most people are of the law, legal terms and how influenced they can become by lawyers? It is amazing... I haven't seen anything other than the video but that alone shows enough evidence to go to Court.
    About the same as they are influenced by media and AFAIK they weren't sequestered. Have you heard differently?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wow, Hatuey. Now I know you're just making troll posts. Kindly address your troll posts to someone else.
    C'man tres, your entire response here has been based on nothing more than a belief that the police are justified if a person breaks the law. It doesn't matter what those laws are. That you're now going to try and play the "nuh-uh" card doesn't help you. You spent 4-5 posts avoiding the possibility that your kids could ever break laws, then you decided that you had a crystal ball and they wouldn't ever break the law, then when you finally worked up the courage, you stated you wouldn't have a problem with them being arrested for breaking any laws (no matter how stupid: see. lemonade, seaweed). Your authoritarianism was put on full display and you didn't even realize it. I realized you weren't much of a libertarian after you refused to concede that the militarization of police departments is part of the big government (even though they're largely funded by the federal government and full under the control of the state's executive branch). Then you resorted to the response given to libertarians when they complain about authoritarianism: Don't like it? Move elsewhere!

    This exchange has been more than I could ask for because you've completely devolved into a raging pro-big government Libertarian.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 12-09-14 at 07:49 PM.
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