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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If I embezzled money from my employer, and no cop observed me doing it, does that mean I can't be arrested?


    Not without evidence, no.


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Don't lie.


    I've been in the thread from early on.


    Its not there.


    If it was, you would hit me over the head with it, gleefully

    I know i would, i love waxing facts on the ignorant. Heres your chance to do the same!

    What crime was he observed committing?
    Take your own advice. It's there, I read it, posted some of what you ask, as have others who actually did follow along and read the thread.

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    No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Take your own advice. It's there, I read it, posted some of what you ask, as have others who actually did follow along and read the thread.
    No, you haven't, sorry.


    I don't believe you are telling the truth.

    I accept your concession that garner was not observed committing a crime before being detained and eventually choked, head smashing and smothering with knees.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So your evidence that cops are confronting people who are just walking along, minding their own business, on a daily/hourly/constant basis is forthcoming?
    Man left beaten and bloodied for jaywalking is 85-year-old who doesn't understand much English | Daily Mail Online
    Bill de Blasio Crackdown on Jaywalking Leads to Beating of 84-Year-Old Man | FrontPage Magazine

    New York City does not ticket or arrest jaywalkers under normal circumstances. Giuliani’s administration briefly tried it and gave up. Even Bloomberg, who criminalized salt and soda, left jaywalking alone.
    Let me guess, you support beating an old man because he broke the law, didn't understand and walked away? Or was this confrontation justified too because the old man was breaking the law?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, it doesn't. And you lost relevance about two seconds after your first post to the thread.
    Still trying? Last time I ask you: Can you show us at what point in the video police told Eric Garner to move along? You made the claim that they had, I'm asking you to validate it. Or can't you? Just like you can't show what crime the police observed?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Not without evidence, no.


    Good luck on your endeavors.
    I don't plan to do it. I have no interest in getting arrested, which is why I avoid breaking laws.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Man left beaten and bloodied for jaywalking is 85-year-old who doesn't understand much English | Daily Mail Online
    Bill de Blasio Crackdown on Jaywalking Leads to Beating of 84-Year-Old Man | FrontPage Magazine



    Let me guess, you support beating an old man because he broke the law, didn't understand and walked away? Or was this confrontation justified too because the old man was breaking the law?


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I don't plan to do it. I have no interest in getting arrested, which is why I avoid breaking laws.


    How wonderful for you. I am sure this mindset serves you well!
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Still trying? Last time I ask you: Can you show us at what point in the video police told Eric Garner to move along? You made the claim that they had, I'm asking you to validate it. Or can't you? Just like you can't show what crime the police observed?
    Again this? The first time you asked this same silly thing I posted the answer for you. It's not on the video we have access to. The video does not cover the entire event. It does not show his encounter with an undercover officer. It does not show the fight all the witnesses mention that immediately precedes. I also pointed out to you that the "good citizen" taking the video says he's being placed under arrest.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Sure I can validate my claim. Because there are no stories or reports of people getting put into chokeholds all time by cops while they were out minding their own business and not breaking laws.
    Nonsense, you're relying on not having presented any evidence to make your claim seem true. That's nonsense. It's no more sensical than saying: Today, it didn't snow today, so tomorrow it won't either because today it didn't. You made a claim, now validate it.

    That's actually the only evidence needed. You do know you can't prove a negative, yes?
    Of course you can. I can prove that if I drop an object, it will not float into the sky. Want me to show you how?

    Philosophic burden of proof - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    When the assertion to prove is a negative claim, the burden takes the form of a negative proof, proof of impossibility, or mere evidence of absence. If this negative assertion is in response to a claim made by another party in a debate, asserting the falsehood of the positive claim shifts the burden of proof from the party making the first claim to the one asserting its falsehood, as the position "I do not believe that X is true" is different from the explicit denial "I believe that X is false".[10]
    Let me give you a hand, now get to work on proving your claim.

    By the way, are you the arbiter of who is allowed to post on threads? I'm here to debate about the topic. You're angry because I don't want to debate seaweed laws.
    Nobody is angry, what has been shown is that your blanket generalizations don't stand up to scrutiny.
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