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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And I already said I can't watch the video on this computer, or did you miss that?
    Does it matter? They were breaking the law by selling lemonade. Their arrest/detainment was justified. According to you anyways.

    Gotta love them Libertarian ideals!
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's kind of the point that tres borrachos is missing. She just stated that if you don't want a confrontation with the police, you shouldn't break the law. Those girls broke the law and resisted, talked back etc. Would she have supported somebody putting those girls in a chokehold? According to her statements: Yes. However, she's not willing to come out and admit it. It's the thing about authoritarians. The small government stuff? It's only for show.
    So complain to the people who are in charge of the police. There's no "point" for me to be getting. You never asked me if I supported putting my kids or anyone else's kids in a chokehold, did you? Did you ever ask me about my views on my kids or anyone else's kids resisting arrest? Why, no, you didn't. So your claim:

    Would she have supported somebody putting those girls in a chokehold? According to her statements: Yes

    ....is a lie.

    You asked me if I'd support my kids getting arrested for selling lemonade or picking seaweed. Try to keep up with your own posts, for the love of doG.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Does it matter? They were breaking the law by selling lemonade. Their arrest/detainment was justified. According to you anyways.

    Gotta love them Libertarian ideals!
    Your posts are all trolling, and filled with lies.

    You never asked me about putting kids in chokeholds, and I can't watch the video that has you weeping. Nor do I care to anyway. I'm not losing sleep over lemonade sales. You are.

    Carry on.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What does being upset have to do with rights? Sure, I wouldn't like it, but like I said, he has the right to be there. Being the king in the neighborhood in ice cream sales is not a right I have.
    actually it does

    you pay real estate, and sales tax to the city to be the ice cream magnate on that block

    you also have a business license that says you get to conduct business in that one spot

    laws are on the books to "protect those rights" in every community i have ever lived in, or done business in
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's what I've been asking from the beginning, in different ways, but from the beginning. The seaweed, the lemonade, they're all insignificant laws which don't harm anyone if they're broken.
    Inaccurate. Breaking them may not threaten lives, but breaking those laws can and sometimes do have a negative financial impact on those who are following the law. A neighborhood lemonade stand isn't going to impact anyone's business. One in the park that issues licenses to vendors is. Perhaps those vendors have families with children who depend on that income? Screw them right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You didn't post that a dozen times. You just answered it now and if you posted it before, it wasn't in reference to me. Lol. Now - Second question: If your kids started crying and moving their hands away from the police, would you support the police using a chokehold to subdue them? Maybe tasering? Any force necessary? Yes?
    No on the chokehold, again against policy in all departments I've seen or read about. Taser, yes, if they are resisting. Any force necessary? Yes.

    But what you don't seem to be able to understand is that my child and my grandchildren are familiar with law enforcement. Their uncles and aunties are FBI, local cops, Sheriffs and staties. They know how to answer questions respectfully. They know not to lie to officers. So the likelihood of them ever facing that situation approach zero rapidly.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So complain to the people who are in charge of the police.
    This has to be the silliest cop-out I've ever heard for not wanting to stand one way or another on an issue.

    There's no "point" for me to be getting. You never asked me if I supported putting my kids or anyone else's kids in a chokehold, did you?
    Do you not realize that even if I had asked you that, it wouldn't have made your support of people getting arrested for small things seem less authoritarian?

    Did you ever ask me about my views on my kids or anyone else's kids resisting arrest? Why, no, you didn't. So your claim:

    Would she have supported somebody putting those girls in a chokehold? According to her statements: Yes

    ....is a lie.

    You asked me if I'd support my kids getting arrested for selling lemonade or picking seaweed. Try to keep up with your own posts, for the love of doG.
    No it isn't. You support whatever police measures are deemed in order to stop people from breaking laws. That includes chokeholds, the piling on that Eric Garner received, etc. Or are you now admitting that there is a limit to how far police should be allowed to go?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Be caught driving on that suspended DL and see how it goes. It can go from bad to worse real fast if you argue.


    Like choking mother ****ers out for that ****!
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This has to be the silliest cop-out I've ever heard for not wanting to stand one way or another on an issue.



    Do you not realize that even if I had asked you that, it wouldn't have made your support of people getting arrested for small things seem less authoritarian?



    No it isn't. You support whatever police measures are deemed in order to stop people from breaking laws. That includes chokeholds, the piling on that Eric Garner received, etc. Or are you now admitting that there is a limit to how far police should be allowed to go?
    Show me the post where you asked me about kids getting put in chokeholds, and me saying I was fine with that, which is what you claimed I said.

    I'll wait.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    actually it does

    you pay real estate, and sales tax to the city to be the ice cream magnate on that block

    you also have a business license that says you get to conduct business in that one spot

    laws are on the books to "protect those rights" in every community i have ever lived in, or done business in
    Can you point to the law that says I have a right to not have competition from ice cream trucks parked on the side of the road?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yep, no speeding, no smoking weed, no drinking and driving, no littering, no loitering, no double parking, can you believe the sort of saints we have at DP?
    So. Guess what, I own up to those things when caught. I don't resist and it's not anyone else's fault, including the officer. I don't try to justify my behavior, saying it's right. You should try it sometime.

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