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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Clearly the officers acted improperly. If you watch the video - one of the girls tried to pull away and more than one refused to do what the police told them to do.

    IN IS INEXCUSABLE that those girls were not tasered, thrown to the ground and beat for "resisting." I guess because the girls were white girls the police show them favoritism.
    That's kind of the point that tres borrachos is missing. She just stated that if you don't want a confrontation with the police, you shouldn't break the law. Those girls broke the law and resisted, talked back etc. Would she have supported somebody putting those girls in a chokehold? According to her statements: Yes. However, she's not willing to come out and admit it. It's the thing about authoritarians. The small government stuff? It's only for show.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't own the road. The ice cream truck can park on the side of the road if he feels like it.
    well....you can tell you arent a businessman

    dont know what you do for a living.....

    but you ask 100 store owners that question, and you'll end up with a different response than yours

    its funny how some people have no issue taking things away from some, and giving them to others......

    especially when it isnt theirs to give..........
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, but the CITY that levied the taxes does own the sidewalk. And that's NOT the only illegality here. Licensed sellers agree to abide by certain rules to carry the product for sale. One of those is no sale to minors. The illegal street dealer has no such restriction.
    So essentially the law makes the parties unequal, so in order to resolve this problem it's best if only one of those outlets is legal. Fixing bad law with more law is not something I fully understand. Bad law needs to be repealed, not fixed by more law. That's just bad governance.

    As for the government owning the side walk, well, the man in question was trading with willing members of society, which is entirely in his right to do, so when the law says certain trade between willing members is against the law on public property they are essentially telling the people they can not practice their rights on government property. That is not something I support.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Still using that magical glass ball? Eh, lookie, I'm getting tired of you ignoring



    You're still missing the point, aren't ya? Here, let me explain it simply, ignore the fact that you have a magical 8 ball to see into the future, ignore that you think you know what will happen 3-5-10 years from now: If your kids were arrested for breaking an insignificant law, would you support their arrest?

    You know, your silence and avoidance of the question are far more telling than your continued assertions that you can see into the future.
    So now you're asking me if I support my kids being arrested for breaking an "insignificant law". Why? The purpose of this thread isn't to debate how significant or insignificant laws are, is it?

    There is no answer to your question other than the one I keep repeating and you keep ignoring, so let me try it once more to see if it sinks in, and then let this thread get back on topic since I'm sure everyone is tired of your incessant, off-topic questions to me.

    I support the idea of my children getting arrested if they break the law and the punishment for breaking that law involves arrest. If my kids break the law, they have to pay the price. My family isn't above the law. We aren't the Kennedys.

    Not sure what it is you didn't get the first dozen times I posted that?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's kind of the point that tres borrachos is missing. She just stated that if you don't want a confrontation with the police, you shouldn't break the law. Those girls broke the law and resisted, talked back etc. Would she have supported somebody putting those girls in a chokehold? According to her statements: Yes. However, she's not willing to come out and admit it. It's the thing about authoritarians. The small government stuff? It's only for show.
    Of course, in actual reality, those girls weren't 350lbs even if you put them together. The mischaracterization and silly memes just don't stop with you. They should, you're not very good at it.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    True, for example, if I get enough points on my license, I get a notice from the DMV in the mail that my license has been suspended and these are the fines I owe.


    I don't get jumped by a jock cop and have him attempt to choke me out. (that's not even a legal action).


    And again, his only crime that day was.....?
    Be caught driving on that suspended DL and see how it goes. It can go from bad to worse real fast if you argue.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So now you're asking me if I support my kids being arrested for breaking an "insignificant law". Why?
    It's what I've been asking from the beginning, in different ways, but from the beginning. The seaweed, the lemonade, they're all insignificant laws which don't harm anyone if they're broken.

    The purpose of this thread isn't to debate how significant or insignificant laws are, is it?

    There is no answer to your question other than the one I keep repeating and you keep ignoring, so let me try it once more to see if it sinks in, and then let this thread get back on topic since I'm sure everyone is tired of your incessant, off-topic questions to me.

    I support the idea of my children getting arrested if they break the law and the punishment for breaking that law involves arrest. If my kids break the law, they have to pay the price. My family isn't above the law. We aren't the Kennedys.

    Not sure what it is you didn't get the first dozen times I posted that?
    You didn't post that a dozen times. You just answered it now and if you posted it before, it wasn't in reference to me. Lol. Now - Second question: If your kids started crying and moving their hands away from the police, would you support the police using a chokehold to subdue them? Maybe tasering? Any force necessary? Yes?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    well....you can tell you arent a businessman

    dont know what you do for a living.....

    but you ask 100 store owners that question, and you'll end up with a different response than yours

    its funny how some people have no issue taking things away from some, and giving them to others......

    especially when it isnt theirs to give..........
    I am a businessman. What does being a businessman have to do with the road not being my property? The ice cream truck has the right to be on the road if otherwise granted permission by the state, so I can't even begin to imagine what say I have on the matter.

    Is he blocking my business? No, he is selling ice cream like I am doing in your example. He might be taking some of my business, but he is not stopping people from shopping at my store if they want to do so.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Of course, in actual reality, those girls weren't 350lbs even if you put them together. The mischaracterization and silly memes just don't stop with you. They should, you're not very good at it.
    Somebody's following me through threads. No it does not. The size of an individual does not dictate the force used. If that was true, hell, a police officer would be justified in beating anybody they believed was beyond their capabilities.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So now you're asking me if I support my kids being arrested for breaking an "insignificant law". Why? The purpose of this thread isn't to debate how significant or insignificant laws are, is it?

    There is no answer to your question other than the one I keep repeating and you keep ignoring, so let me try it once more to see if it sinks in, and then let this thread get back on topic since I'm sure everyone is tired of your incessant, off-topic questions to me.

    I support the idea of my children getting arrested if they break the law and the punishment for breaking that law involves arrest. If my kids break the law, they have to pay the price. My family isn't above the law. We aren't the Kennedys.

    Not sure what it is you didn't get the first dozen times I posted that?
    Since another sinless member of the forum?

    I wonder how many people there are on the forum that never broke any regulation or law in their life.

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