Page 25 of 276 FirstFirst ... 1523242526273575125 ... LastLast
Results 241 to 250 of 2756

Thread: No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903,2680]

  1. #241
    Guru

    cAPSLOCK's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Dallas Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:58 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    2,922
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The arrest is consistent with the "Broken Windows" theory of law enforcement. The basic idea is that if you take care of the small things then the big things will be less likely to happen.
    Then thre are things so little they are barely worth worrying about, much much less snuffing out a life over.

  2. #242
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    34,566

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Your opinion of the events do not correspond with the video. It's enough for an indictment.
    Just a guess, but perhaps the GJ had more to consider than just that video.
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

  3. #243
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Just a guess, but perhaps the GJ had more to consider than just that video.
    Even if everything else they considered was in the cops favor, the video by itself is enough to indict.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  4. #244
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:18 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,771

    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The, "choke hold", didn't kill him.
    who said it did?
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  5. #245
    Sage
    Lutherf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    24,654

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I agree - it was an accident. I don't see the police trying to kill this guy purposefully - and that is why there are laws such as negligent homicide and various levels of manslaughter on the books for just such an event. I'm not looking to nail this cop - only give him his day in court and let a jury decide if he just did his job or if he did his job badly and aiding in the death of a suspect. Reasonable no?
    I really don't think that there needs to be a trial for everything that happens. The cops weren't even particularly rough with Garner. It's a tough break but there is just nothing there to claim inappropriate behavior by the cops.

  6. #246
    Noblesse oblige
    Ockham's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    New Jersey
    Last Seen
    01-27-17 @ 07:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    23,909
    Blog Entries
    4

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I really don't think that there needs to be a trial for everything that happens. The cops weren't even particularly rough with Garner. It's a tough break but there is just nothing there to claim inappropriate behavior by the cops.
    I totally disagree. I find the banned choke hold inappropriate. If find their use of force inappropriate in those circumstances. I find their lack of concern and lack of aid after they figured out he had no pulse inappropriate.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


  7. #247
    Sage

    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    12-04-17 @ 09:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    12,361

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    ....and a comment for New York lawmakers. If it is wildly profitable to go to North Carolina to buy cigarettes and then sell them on the street illegally then something is wrong with the tax law. The purpose, one would assume, is to discourage smoking. The outrageous tax won't discourage smoking. Smoking is a powerful addiction. It will only encourage the black market. Common sense should prevail.

  8. #248
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    34,566

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    ....and a comment for New York lawmakers. If it is wildly profitable to go to North Carolina to buy cigarettes and then sell them on the street illegally then something is wrong with the tax law. The purpose, one would assume, is to discourage smoking. The outrageous tax won't discourage smoking. Smoking is a powerful addiction. It will only encourage the black market. Common sense should prevail.
    The war on logic, I mean drugs, continues.
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

  9. #249
    Sage
    Lutherf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    24,654

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by cAPSLOCK View Post
    Then thre are things so little they are barely worth worrying about, much much less snuffing out a life over.
    My understanding is that this guy had an extensive record of petty crime. That doesn't make him some kind of kingpin but it does make him a troublemaker.

  10. #250
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Last Seen
    03-03-17 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,813

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Seems as though grand juries are allergic to indicting cops
    Or maybe we do not yet have a complete picture of what occurred.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •