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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It does not indicate a crime was committed, necessarily.
    It does indicate that someone was killed by another person.

    He didn't die of donuts and cheeseburgers. He died at the hands of another person. He was killed.
    No...he wasnt 'killed'. Anymore than Elvis was killed by taking a ****. He died because he resisted arrest, was put to the ground, his body couldnt withstand the physical confrontation, and he went into cardiac arrest. He was not 'choked' to the point of blood loss. He wad not choked to the point of loss of oxygen. Try doing 10 pushups and then shout "I CANT BREATHE" 11times and see how many you can get out before you take a breath.

    Dood died of a heart attack because he was a dangerous combination of fat and stupid.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And I can't have a problem with something that doesn't exist.
    Are you saying kids have never been arrested/threatened/harassed for selling lemonade?

    Just like I don't have a problem with an elephant sleeping in my bed. That isn't going to happen either.

    Let me know when it happens, or when a law exists that says kids have to have licenses to operate lemonade stands.




    The faces not shown? Guess why. The second video? Kids threatened with arrest if they don't shut down their lemonade stands. Please tell us all how your "Libertarian" ideas justify that.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are you saying kids have never been arrested/threatened/harassed for selling lemonade?





    The faces not shown? Guess why.
    One more time. I'm saying kids aren't arrested here in NH for selling lemonade. I have kids. I live in NH. My kids won't get arrested for selling lemonade. We don't arrest kids in NH for selling lemonade. Therefore, I don't care about kids getting arrested for selling lemonade. Their parents need to move to another less nanny-state infiltrated jurisdiction if they want to have what I have here.

    Understand yet?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    One more time. I'm saying kids aren't arrested here in NH for selling lemonade.
    And that's entirely irrelevant. Nobody asked you about NH. What was asked was: If it happened, would you be opposed to it? That you aren't tells us everything you need to know.

    I have kids. I live in NH. My kids won't get arrested for selling lemonade. We don't arrest kids in NH for selling lemonade. Therefore, I don't care about kids getting arrested for selling lemonade. Their parents need to move to another less nanny-state infiltrated jurisdiction if they want to have what I have here.

    Understand yet?
    Ah okay, let's see if your kids were arrested for picking up seaweed from a beach, would you support it as they broke NH law?

    TITLE XVIII
    FISH AND GAME

    CHAPTER 207

    GENERAL PROVISIONS AS TO FISH AND GAME

    Collecting Seaweed

    Section 207:48

    In Night. � If any person shall carry away or collect for the purpose of carrying away any seaweed or rockweed from the seashore below high-water mark, between daylight in the evening and daylight in the morning, he shall be guilty of a violation.

    Source. 1973, 532:10, eff. Nov. 1, 1973.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    And that's entirely irrelevant. Nobody asked you about NH. What was asked was: If it happened, would you be opposed to it? That you aren't tells us everything you need to know.



    Ah okay, let's see if your kids were arrested for picking up seaweed from a beach, would you support it as they broke NH law?
    If it happened would I oppose it? What do hypotheticals have to do with this, and the issue would be the law, not the police.

    So lobby the NH house to remove the seaweed laws from the books if they bother you. Or better yet, if you come visit here, don't let your kids collect seaweed. I wouldn't want the Rye, NH cops to put your kid in our jails. They aren't that nice apparently.

    What is the penalty for that law? How much time does the child have to serve?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If it happened would I oppose it? What do hypotheticals have to do with this, and the issue would be the law, not the police.
    Still running away from the answer? It's becoming obvious. Look, if you're as authoritarian as to always believe that police are justified because someone broke the law. State it, then remove the "Libertarian" label. If you're not, then admit your statement:

    How about "don't break the law and you won't have to worry about a confrontation with the police"?
    Is full of nonsense.

    So lobby the NH house to remove the seaweed laws from the books if they bother you. Or better yet, if you come visit here, don't let your kids collect seaweed. I wouldn't want the Rye, NH cops to put your kid in our jails. They aren't that nice apparently.
    Supporting the police state? How Libertarian of you.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    This is ****ing unreal. It was an prohibited choke hold and the coroner called it a homicide, how does that not generate at the very least a manslaughter charge?
    legally speaking, a death can be a homicide and not raise to the level of murder or manslaughter.

    in my state this would be classed as "Excusable homicide" a doctrine in which someone doing something legal without criminal negligence causes death by accident. it is legal to use force to effect an arrest, even if department policy is more restrictive, my understanding is the officer was fired....
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No one said a child got arrested, what was asked of you is if you'd have a problem with kids being arrested for it. You already said you wouldn't. Breaking the law remember?

    kinda hard to have issues with non-existent things

    i got enough real **** to deal with.....

    lets stick to what actually is or has happened....shall we
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Not really. The man was on the sidewalk selling cigarettes that are only illegal because the state wants tax revenue. The state is pretty damn good at crying rivers. The shopkeeper doesn't even own the sidewalk, so his desire for the man to move along means nothing. Cry shopkeeper, cry.

    so if you own an ice cream store, and an ice cream truck parks out front of your store....no issue , right?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Not really. The man was on the sidewalk selling cigarettes that are only illegal because the state wants tax revenue. The state is pretty damn good at crying rivers. The shopkeeper doesn't even own the sidewalk, so his desire for the man to move along means nothing. Cry shopkeeper, cry.
    No, but the CITY that levied the taxes does own the sidewalk. And that's NOT the only illegality here. Licensed sellers agree to abide by certain rules to carry the product for sale. One of those is no sale to minors. The illegal street dealer has no such restriction.

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