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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    No you wouldn't, because you like every other officer want to progress, and the one I have signed by your chief, probably wouldn't go over very well.

    It's the officers that give them out to thier friends and family. Are you telling me you would harrass a cops wife like this if she did that?

    No, you wouldn't.
    Name dropping the chief meant nothing to me. Never heard a peep about it either. Oh, and if you had one of those stickers on your plate or window? You got a ticket for that too.
    Then when you want to call the station to talk to the chief from the stop, I would take the phone. All in the name of officer safety. Don't want you calling your homies to come bully you out of the situation.
    Oh, and there is no such thing as a signed "get out of jail/ticket" PBA card.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Name dropping the chief meant nothing to me. Never heard a peep about it either. Oh, and if you had one of those stickers on your plate or window? You got a ticket for that too.
    Then when you want to call the station to talk to the chief from the stop, I would take the phone. All in the name of officer safety. Don't want you calling your homies to come bully you out of the situation.

    Note how you ignored the officer wife question. one law for them, eh flat foot?

    You wouldn't last long in NY/NJ/CT as a cop. It's the culture here. And the point is not to open up how much of a badass cop you used to be, because we all know it's true, but to point out, "officer discretion" is one of the cops most useful tools that is being eroded away from jock cops with hard ons to write up, arrest, assault citizens for even the most minor of things.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    WHERE did you get your LEMONS FROM!?!
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    You wouldn't last long in NY/NJ/CT as a cop. It's the culture here. And the point is not to open up how much of a badass cop you used to be, because we all know it's true, but to point out, "officer discretion" is one of the cops most useful tools that is being eroded away from jock cops with hard ons to write up, arrest, assault citizens for even the most minor of things.
    Bad ass? Doing a job is not being a bad ass. Its what I was paid to do.
    Officer discretion? Sure. If you acted your age and not try to beg your way out by name dropping.
    And I don't care how its done "up north". Heard that plenty too. "well back home" or "back in loserville". I didn't care.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    tree in the back yard, untaxed! Illegal!
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    What was he charged with except not accepting state tyranny by allowing himself to be submissive to an officer who had NO reason to hassle him?

    Do you suggest we, as citizens of the United States, to simply do as we're told whenever an officer gives us an order?
    I say "yes" to your question. Your citizenship is a privilege not a God given right. A cop tells you to do something do it. A person becomes a police officer and then goes through 20-30 years of every kind of resistance and smart ass back talk, lies, beatings and murders to the simplest of issues. Every single moment of an interaction of the smallest nature could result in the citizen suddenly turning on him or her. A simple traffic stop results in the officer(s) being shot point blank every year. I am personally shocked more police officers just don't get fed up and react violently towards agitators. How many Americans have 911 in their speed dial? Dimwitted citizens demand our protectors act like perfect angels every single second while on duty. I can think of two punks who thought they could do as they please with aggravating a police officer and both are dead proving me correct. God bless our protectors.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Note how you ignored the officer wife question. one law for them, eh flat foot?

    You wouldn't last long in NY/NJ/CT as a cop. It's the culture here. And the point is not to open up how much of a badass cop you used to be, because we all know it's true, but to point out, "officer discretion" is one of the cops most useful tools that is being eroded away from jock cops with hard ons to write up, arrest, assault citizens for even the most minor of things.
    Wife? Wrote one of them too. Kids, friends, best mans, high school buddy, moms, dads. Officer discretion went out the window with a lack of citizen discretion.
    You play the name dropping game, it was over.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The people that sit on this jury must be police officers.

    If ever there was a case of manslaughter, this was it.
    He resisted arrest right up until he hit the ground.

    This is quite obvious if you watch the video.

    The police were trying to pin his right arm behind his back to cuff him while he was on the ground. The cop let go of the choke hold and they pinned his head against the ground.

    The choke hold was wrong and police standing around doing nothing while there was clearly something was very wrong

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    My charges were by way of example to point out how a DA can easily manipulate a GJ and weren't a comment on the Garner case.

    I didn't realize they'd made the Garner charges public. Honestly criminally negligent homicide seems to fit the bill. NY defines criminal negligence as



    From what I've seen there seems to be ample evidence to justify that charge and bring it to trial. Maybe there's not enough for a conviction but certainly a trail seems warranted.

    There was also at least one other lesser charge, reckless endangerment, that wasn't presented.
    The charges have been out there, the usual "sources close to the investigation" revealed the charges. The knock is that reckless endangerment wasn't in there, and it possibly should have been. It does seem that the criminally negligent homicide could have stuck too, which has to make you wonder what the GJ saw that we didn't.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    If you actually READ the post that you replied to, you'd understand how the prosecutor likely controlled the procedure.

    And to reiterate a key point: Normally, a grand jury proceeding takes less than a day, and the prosecutor ONLY shares enough evidence with the grand jury to secure an indictment. When the proceeding takes 9 weeks and involves 50 witnesses, something is definitely rotten in the state of New York.
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