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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Sounds like some schoolyard bully ****. Submit or else pain.
    we pay law enforcement officers to keep the peace

    and to enforce laws

    it is hard enough getting qualified candidates in some areas

    take away those things that make the job safer, and you'll have no cops around

    subdual has been used for years...very few incidents like Mr Garner because they work

    your choice always........do as cops say, or face the consequences
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Even that is a crime.
    A crime created by poor taxing decisions that create black markets.

    It is a victimless crime and is a disrespectable law.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No the point. He was a criminal.


    So was the cop. he was sued, and the nypd paid out because of his violence.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    He didn't present them with Murder 1 and Murder 2. He presented them with manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide.
    My charges were by way of example to point out how a DA can easily manipulate a GJ and weren't a comment on the Garner case.

    I didn't realize they'd made the Garner charges public. Honestly criminally negligent homicide seems to fit the bill. NY defines criminal negligence as

    A person acts with criminal negligence with
    respect to a result or to a circumstance described by a statute defining
    an offense when he fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable
    risk that such result will occur or that such circumstance exists. The
    risk must be of such nature and degree that the failure to perceive it
    constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a
    reasonable person would observe in the situation
    From what I've seen there seems to be ample evidence to justify that charge and bring it to trial. Maybe there's not enough for a conviction but certainly a trail seems warranted.

    There was also at least one other lesser charge, reckless endangerment, that wasn't presented.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Thanks. I'm a little iffy on the idea that excessive force on the part of the officer makes the arrest illegal. Have never heard that before. As a practical matter in almost all cases the court's going to side with the officer when he says he wasn't using excessive force, unless it's something completely over-the-top.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Thanks. I'm a little iffy on the idea that excessive force on the part of the officer makes the arrest illegal. Have never heard that before. As a practical matter in almost all cases the court's going to side with the officer when he says he wasn't using excessive force, unless it's something completely over-the-top.
    I am sure the officer will win every time...LOL..

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No the point. He was a criminal.

    So? That's not justification for doing whatever you please to the guy.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Posters on here have been using the video as evidence that the cop was at fault here and should have been charged. So how exactly did the prosecutor discredit the video, squelch the advocates of the video, and find a way to convince the majority of 12 citizens to ignore the video that everyone else saw?
    If you actually READ the post that you replied to, you'd understand how the prosecutor likely controlled the procedure.

    And to reiterate a key point: Normally, a grand jury proceeding takes less than a day, and the prosecutor ONLY shares enough evidence with the grand jury to secure an indictment. When the proceeding takes 9 weeks and involves 50 witnesses, something is definitely rotten in the state of New York.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How about "don't break the law and you won't have to worry about a confrontation with the police"?
    So, I'll take this to mean you have no problem with kids being arrested for selling lemonade without a proper license? Right? After all, they are breaking the law.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    So? That's not justification for doing whatever you please to the guy.
    Resist? Yea.

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