Page 237 of 276 FirstFirst ... 137187227235236237238239247 ... LastLast
Results 2,361 to 2,370 of 2756

Thread: No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903,2680]

  1. #2361
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 05:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,260

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death




    Please show me his history of violence. This doesn't do it other than suggest he was charged a long time ago with assault.


    Funny thing is officer choke hold has a more documented history of violence.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  2. #2362
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    A need in the marketplace and selling a legal product? Selling untaxed cigarettes for a profit is not legal. Why pass laws if we are not going to enforce them?
    Both those assertions are obviously true. This is a bad law and, as we can see, it was poorly enforced to the point where a man died. Bureaucrats and small time politicians are making laws based on their own points of view without considering the public's point of view, or the consequences it may have on the average citizen and society. The broken window theory worked but now the police have gone beyond that and into violently and aggressively going after the petty. The police have now done more harm than Eric Garner ever did.

    NYPD No. 3's order over loose smokes led to Garner chokehold death - NY Daily News

    Rough justice in America: Too many laws, too many prisoners | The Economist

  3. #2363
    Pragmatic Idealist
    upsideguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Rocky Mtn. High
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    10,053

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Garner had a history of assault and resisting arrest.
    So what? Everyone has histories.

    There was no evidence of him really resisting arrest here, more with him being annoyed with the cop. Moreover, was the crime worthy of the force applied? Where was the reasonable approach to police work by the officers?

    What is it about people that they want to villify the victim, particularly if he is a black man? Does this somehow mean his death is justifiable? He was also a good man, as per the evidence you suggested... and, as per the evidence you presented, he his a history of being arrested for petty offenses that seemed to have been escalated. Could he be that he had no tolerance for being harassed by the police?

    Of course, since you seem to think histories are relevant, the cop is not without his own questionable history.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2035138
    http://www.ibtimes.com/who-daniel-pa...onduct-1733094

    It appears that he has a history of crossing the line with excessive force. He probably should have been fired a long time ago. Likely they will finally fire him now. Good riddance!
    Last edited by upsideguy; 12-07-14 at 02:43 PM.

  4. #2364
    Sage
    Bodhisattva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:22 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    63,783

    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I believe the Grand Jury had final say.
    You are correct... well done.

    You prefer the mob, apparently.
    Where you get this **** from is beyond me... the comedy channel?

    Given that my stance is within the norms of our civil society and you are asking for the same actions that democratic party lynch mobs used in times past who do you really believe is emotionally compromised?
    My stance is within the norms of our civil society as well. What part is confusing you because maybe I can help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  5. #2365
    Sage
    Bodhisattva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    New Zealand
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:22 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    63,783

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Garner had a history of assault and resisting arrest.
    Good. That justifies killing him. Whew. Cops can sleep better now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have pooped in public, even in public neighborhoods.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

  6. #2366
    Guru
    Juanita's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    now? COLORADO
    Last Seen
    04-27-16 @ 03:50 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    3,981

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    What you believe is irrelevant. You are just a meaningless person and the progressives who are in positions of authority are doing propaganda and indoctrination and causing all these problems.
    .


    WTF! Your comments are not only irrelevant to anyone but yourself, but are stupid to boot. Apparently, you eat propaganda and bull**** for breakfast!

  7. #2367
    Sage
    gdgyva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Twinsburg Ohio
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    5,940

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    You can speculate all you want on chokeholds, how/why/whether they kill, whether or not you understand how, or believe that, treatment by the police caused his death, all based on imperfect understanding and having seen a video.

    The bottom line is that the medical examiner who did the autopsy and does have medical training ruled the death a homicide. That ruling is far and away more credible than pages of speculation.
    homicide in of itself does NOT indicate a crime was committed

    i know that has been said here.....but apparently that fact isnt getting through
    “Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”

    Ralph Waldo Emerson

  8. #2368
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    41,505

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    homicide in of itself does NOT indicate a crime was committed

    i know that has been said here.....but apparently that fact isnt getting through
    It does not indicate a crime was committed, necessarily.
    It does indicate that someone was killed by another person.

    He didn't die of donuts and cheeseburgers. He died at the hands of another person. He was killed.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

  9. #2369
    Sage
    gdgyva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Twinsburg Ohio
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    5,940

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It does not indicate a crime was committed, necessarily.
    It does indicate that someone was killed by another person.

    He didn't die of donuts and cheeseburgers. He died at the hands of another person. He was killed.
    okay

    does someone killing someone else automatically mean a crime has been committed?

    people are killed in this country everyday by other people.....only some of those are criminal acts

    most are accidents.......

    some are self defense

    the GJ ruled no crime was committed.......

    there were NUMEROUS reasons this man died.......and his health was one of them

    there is a lot of blame to go around.......laws, police, him......they are ALL partly to blame

    the death is tragic.......but not criminal
    “Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”

    Ralph Waldo Emerson

  10. #2370
    Sage
    Dittohead not!'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    The Golden State
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 09:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    41,505

    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    okay

    does someone killing someone else automatically mean a crime has been committed?

    people are killed in this country everyday by other people.....only some of those are criminal acts

    most are accidents.......

    some are self defense

    the GJ ruled no crime was committed.......

    there were NUMEROUS reasons this man died.......and his health was one of them

    there is a lot of blame to go around.......laws, police, him......they are ALL partly to blame

    the death is tragic.......but not criminal
    It is indeed tragic. It did not have to happen. No one is saying it was murder, but it was homicide. It could have been prevented, very easily. That it wasn't is a lesson to be learned. It's much like someone dying in a car accident. Was it murder? No, but it was certainly the result of someone's mistake. Was it a crime? probably not, but it was certainly something that should be prevented.

    and brushing this incident of as, "Oh, well, it was just some fat guy selling cigarettes on the street. If he was killed as the result of an arrest gone bad, then that's just how things are," is not the way to go about it.
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •