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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    A more fulsome new headline would be "New Yorkers elect liberal/socialist as Mayor and one of his first orders is for Union Bureaucrats to crack down on Underground Economy - Mayor Claims Amnesia when instruction leads to death of supporter"
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    How can you post with a straight face, you have done nothing but ignore the facts we do know and speculated wildly about the rest we don't.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I posted the reports, he died either in the ambulance or the hospital. He had a heart attack in the ambulance so he was definitely alive after the scene.

    As to officers giving CPR, it's not about training in CPR, they all have that. It's about the protective gear EMT's use to shield them from disease transmission during CPR. And chest compressions while someone is breathing is definitely not a helpful thing.
    I know. I just misunderstood what when he actually stopped breathing, wrongly thinking it was while still in the custody of the police.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Having learned about jumping to conclusions, after seeing the chokehold and learning of the man's later death by heart failure, I believed that the grand jury had more evidence than I and a better grasp of the potential charges which may have applied to this situation, unfortunate as it was. After watching the poor man lay on the sidewalk, apparently dead, I think charges should have been brought against all the cops involved.

    They could have given the man a ticket for selling cigarettes if it's really that big a deal.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    The video only starts when the incident occurs.. its hard to tell what kind of resistence he puts up during the altercation. Without the entire situation caught on film,, its hard to tell if the action of the officer was legitimate or not.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Having learned about jumping to conclusions, after seeing the chokehold and learning of the man's later death by heart failure, I believed that the grand jury had more evidence than I and a better grasp of the potential charges which may have applied to this situation, unfortunate as it was. After watching the poor man lay on the sidewalk, apparently dead, I think charges should have been brought against all the cops involved.

    They could have given the man a ticket for selling cigarettes if it's really that big a deal.
    The only problem I have with this is... that police officers are not medical experts. Are they suppose to ask a criminal if they have any medical issues before they take them down? How many do you think would tell the truth anyway?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    There is no historic basis for that. Both the left and the right can break out in armed rebellion.

    The government in the USA is far, far too powerful for there to ever be any wide scale rebellion no matter what the reason. No government on earth has more prepared itself to squash a rebellion of any size for any reason than the USA.
    The only example of conservative rebellion I can think of is the Spanish civil war. Do you know of another?
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Nanny state creates black markets.


    diblasio charges police to protect tobacco revenue.

    garner dies for failig to pay said revenue.
    Ah.
    Thanks for clearing that up.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Clogged arteries have killed more.
    Auto accidents kill more than 10 times as many people a year as died on 9-11. Really, 9-11 wasn't even newsworthy.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    The only example of conservative rebellion I can think of is the Spanish civil war. Do you know of another?
    It's probably not worth mentioning for how trivial it was. Civil War?

    Actually, most rebellions were by people I would define as conservative. Even the revolutionary war in terms of resistance actually began by hyper backwoods people further South than the NE who decided they'd just shot redcoat tax collectors out in their woods. The idea was an interesting one then to the powerful colonialists in the NE, deciding they could mobilize people I would define as conservative to fight for their having their own country.

    I was thinking of the death of Mr. Garner over tobacco taxes on the most petty level in relation to the American revolutionary war. It would be fairly accurate that the values now are diametrically opposite of them.

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