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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Yet again:

    I didn't say anything about a "collapsed windpipe."

    You asked, and I quote: "The ME said the police killed him? Link?" I've provided you with numerous links. Here is yet another one:
    Police choke hold killed NY man, medical examiner says - CNN.com

    The media reported the ME's opinion on August 1st. After this much commentary on the topic, there's no excuse for not knowing this critical element.
    If the windpipe wasn't collapsed, he didn't choke to death.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Still making it up as you go?
    Let the video speak for itself and the scenario speak for itself.

    Say...you dont suppose that the fact that the cops involved KNEW Mr Garner (as Mr Garner stated) and knew that he had an arrest history including assault and resisting arrest (contrary to the assertion he wouldnt never hurt no one) influenced their decision to not just let him walk away cuz he wanted to be left alone, do you?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Sadly the chief kinda has a point though. Its lame she got arrested. But the trust is soooo bad with cops that I am also thankful it wasnt rape or they didnt decide to stripsearch and finger the girl. Kudos to him for pointing out that there are scumbag cops out there. Its prolly just a petty attempt to deflect attention but hopefully this means his department is clean enough that hes actually being truthful lol. That he really is thankful that this is the extent of their abuse and overreach on authority. Its sad when police are so untrusted that it feels relieving to pick your poison instead of something healthy.

    Its sad that most people dont realize you can state your name and date of birth and that counts as identifying yourself. But cops love to play word games and wont point this out. They love for you to assume you HAVE to have I.D. card or you may be taken in.
    Wonder why the news didnt show the audio on the jaywalking jogger lady arrest though. If I remember right she was screaming for help. Claiming she was being abducted. And screaming she was being kidnapped or something to that affect.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I doubt very much that you'll see anything close to what happened in Ferguson. New Yorkers make a lot of noise but, as a rule, they're not into wrecking their neighborhood.
    Uh, Crown Heights riots?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If there's countless speeches of Obama blaming the Garner case on racism, it shouldn't be hard to link to one of them, now, should it? You've fallen woefully short of that challenge so far.
    I just gave you an example how Obama is making this case about racism. As did di Blasio in his speech. As has Al Sharpton who continues to do whether at rallies/protests, on his TV show or radio broadcast. And you need no further proof than Holder's comments on ordering a federal investigation into the Grand Jury Holder needs to make it about racism for a federal investigation..... there has to be a violation of civil rights, which implies that this was a racial incident. Now count all the federal investigations into law enforcement that Holder has ordered over the years and show me all his findings that there is this huge race problem of blacks being treated unfairly.

    This stinks to high heaven.

    A white cop kills a black man due to illegal activity.
    Race baiting ambulance chasers head to the scene and start making claims of racial profiling and wrongdoing by cops.
    Then all those community organizer types from special interests show up on the scene as professional instigators to throw fire on the flames the race baiters ignited.
    Then you have the leader of the country flaming the fires with his comments while the biggest race baiter in the country seems to be his new race advisor considering the number of visits Sharpton has made to the WH.
    Followed with the top cop Holder making claims of civil rights violations brought on by racism by ordering a federal investigation.
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    No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I just gave you an example how Obama is making this case about racism. As did di Blasio in his speech. As has Al Sharpton who continues to do whether at rallies/protests, on his TV show or radio broadcast. And you need no further proof than Holder's comments on ordering a federal investigation into the Grand Jury Holder needs to make it about racism for a federal investigation..... there has to be a violation of civil rights, which implies that this was a racial incident. Now count all the federal investigation into law enforcement that Holder has ordered and show me all his findings that there is this huge race problem of blacks being treated unfairly.

    This stinks to high heaven.

    A white cop kills a black man due to illegal activity.
    Race baiting ambulance chasers head to the scene and start making claims of racial profiling and wrongdoing by cops.
    Then all those community organizer types from special interests show up on the scene as professional instigators to throw fire on the flames the race baiters ignited.
    Then you have the leader of the county flaming the fires with his comments while the biggest race baiter in the country seems to be his new race advisor considering the number of visits Sharpton has made to the WH.
    Followed with the top cop Holder making claims of racism by ordering a federal investigation.
    Incessantly repeating this claim doesn't make it any less wrong.

    Since when were civil rights violations strictly a racial issue?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Mensch View Post
    Uh, Crown Heights riots?
    That was 24 years ago.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Incessantly repeating this claim doesn't make it any less wrong.

    Since when were civil rights violations strictly a racial issue?
    It certainly becomes a factor when a white cop kills a black man. Geesh

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Let the video speak for itself and the scenario speak for itself.
    Ah, so he said that?

    Say...you dont suppose that the fact that the cops involved KNEW Mr Garner (as Mr Garner stated) and knew that he had an arrest history including assault and resisting arrest (contrary to the assertion he wouldnt never hurt no one) influenced their decision to not just let him walk away cuz he wanted to be left alone, do you?
    Do you believe the Pantalano's history of harassing suspects led to him not wanting to let Garner go?
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