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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Can you link to Holder and/or Obama saying what you claim they are re: Garner?
    Kobie, there are countless videos of speeches and press releases on both that imply white racism . But the latest action on behalf of the President is what he did after de Blasio threw his police department under the bus, implying they were racist and untrustworthy. Obama called and commended him for his words.

    Eric Garner case: Obama commends NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio for nonviolent protests - Washington Times

    di Blasio was part of the pow wow that occurred at the WH on Monday along with Holder, Obama, and Al Sharpton (with his many visits to the WH has apparently become Obama's advisor on race).

    Whether it is in speeches, interviews etc. these men claim such an animus of wrong doing on behalf of law enforcement. But there is no proof of their claims. Ask yourself, how many times has Eric Holder ordered countless investigations on civil rights abuses against people of color over the past years? Where's the beef to his accusations? Where are the findings that prove this animus they keep repeating?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    He said it around 11 times. And yes...he was still breathing. However...a heart attack would feel pretty similar.

    Its funny watching all the people here but I DO think there is a lesson learned. In the future, If someone decides they want to be a criminal be it selling untaxed cigarette or any of the other 30 charges Brown ahs face or the 27 his buddy the camerman has faced or hell...bank robbery or whatever....just pig out for a few years and become morbidly obese and when the cops come to arrest you, just say "Leave me alone! I told you last time, just leave me alone! I dont wanna be arrested." And the cops will say...well...OK...and walk away. And if they insist, tell them, "look...Im so fat if you try to arrest me I will have a heart attack and die, right here on the spot." THAT should do it.
    Still making it up as you go?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Kobie, there are countless videos of speeches and press releases on both that imply white racism . But the latest action on behalf of the President is what he did after de Blasio threw his police department under the bus, implying they were racist and untrustworthy. Obama called and commended him for his words.

    Eric Garner case: Obama commends NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio for nonviolent protests - Washington Times

    di Blasio was part of the pow wow that occurred at the WH on Monday along with Holder, Obama, and Al Sharpton (with his many visits to the WH has apparently become Obama's advisor on race).

    Whether it is in speeches, interviews etc. these men claim such an animus of wrong doing on behalf of law enforcement. But there is no proof of their claims. Ask yourself, how many times has Eric Holder ordered countless investigations on civil rights abuses against people of color over the past years? Where's the beef to his accusations? Where are the findings that prove this animus they keep repeating?
    Eh... so Obama thanking DeBlasio for keeping the protests non-violent means he's thanking him for... implying white racism? You really are trying to play the victim card aren't you?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    I didn't say anything about a "collapsed windpipe." Again: You asked, and I quote: "The ME said the police killed him? Link?"

    The media reported the ME's opinion on August 1st. After this much commentary on the topic, there's no excuse for not knowing this critical element.
    Do you even know what happens when someone chokes to death?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Still can't see why they were harassing this guy.

    The store manager/owner called in a complaint, asking that the guy be made to stop selling illegal cigarettes in front of the store. You know as well as I do that the cops can't just ignore that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Eh... so Obama thanking DeBlasio for keeping the protests non-violent means he's thanking him for... implying white racism? You really are trying to play the victim card aren't you?
    What did you read, the first paragraph? You would have to know what di Blasio stated in his speech that outraged police officers and their union leaders who felt betrayed to see the significance in Obama's words.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Can't wait for someone to defend this.
    Sadly the chief kinda has a point though. Its lame she got arrested. But the trust is soooo bad with cops that I am also thankful it wasnt rape or they didnt decide to stripsearch and finger the girl. Kudos to him for pointing out that there are scumbag cops out there. Its prolly just a petty attempt to deflect attention but hopefully this means his department is clean enough that hes actually being truthful lol. That he really is thankful that this is the extent of their abuse and overreach on authority. Its sad when police are so untrusted that it feels relieving to pick your poison instead of something healthy.

    Its sad that most people dont realize you can state your name and date of birth and that counts as identifying yourself. But cops love to play word games and wont point this out. They love for you to assume you HAVE to have I.D. card or you may be taken in.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    What did you read, the first paragraph? You would have to know what di Blasio stated in his speech that outraged police officers and their union leaders who felt betrayed to see the significance in Obama's words.
    Yes and the police are just angry that somebody is pointing out that black people sometimes distrust them. Good grief, if that is all it takes to make white folks like you feel "racism" you're more sensitive than Al Sharpton.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you even know what happens when someone chokes to death?
    Yet again:

    I didn't say anything about a "collapsed windpipe."

    You asked, and I quote: "The ME said the police killed him? Link?" I've provided you with numerous links. Here is yet another one:
    Police choke hold killed NY man, medical examiner says - CNN.com

    The media reported the ME's opinion on August 1st. After this much commentary on the topic, there's no excuse for not knowing this critical element.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Kobie, there are countless videos of speeches and press releases on both that imply white racism . But the latest action on behalf of the President is what he did after de Blasio threw his police department under the bus, implying they were racist and untrustworthy. Obama called and commended him for his words.

    Eric Garner case: Obama commends NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio for nonviolent protests - Washington Times

    di Blasio was part of the pow wow that occurred at the WH on Monday along with Holder, Obama, and Al Sharpton (with his many visits to the WH has apparently become Obama's advisor on race).

    Whether it is in speeches, interviews etc. these men claim such an animus of wrong doing on behalf of law enforcement. But there is no proof of their claims. Ask yourself, how many times has Eric Holder ordered countless investigations on civil rights abuses against people of color over the past years? Where's the beef to his accusations? Where are the findings that prove this animus they keep repeating?
    If there's countless speeches of Obama blaming the Garner case on racism, it shouldn't be hard to link to one of them, now, should it? You've fallen woefully short of that challenge so far.
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