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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    The idea that this man died from a group attack by four police officers - one who sneaks up behind him and applies a barred chokehold to him - for the capital offense of selling loose cigarettes simply is something that no writer in any movie would dare pen for risk of being laughed from the room. But here it is just the same in real life and the cop walks free.

    Amazing. Simply amazing.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post


    I didn't see resisting. I did hear him say at least 5 times saying he can't breathe.
    Nor did I see him resisting. This clearly is the definition of abuse of police power.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    When he continued to resist arrest he became a threat.

    The cops primary focus in these situations is control. If the suspect appears to be on the verge of becoming uncontrollable then the cop is going to do something to regain that control. Ideally that escalation will be a stepped response and only enough force to regain control will be utilized. In my experience that's exactly what you saw in the video.
    Did you watch the video? You call that resisting arrest?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Did you watch the video? You call that resisting arrest?
    Yes, he was resisting arrest. He started resisting arrest when he verbally refused to submit to being arrested.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The idea that this man died from a group attack by four police officers - one who sneaks up behind him and applies a barred chokehold to him - for the capital offense of selling loose cigarettes simply is something that no writer in any movie would dare pen for risk of being laughed from the room. But here it is just the same in real life and the cop walks free.

    Amazing. Simply amazing.
    The, "choke hold", didn't kill him.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, he was resisting arrest. He started resisting arrest when he verbally refused to submit to being arrested.
    I didn't see him resisting arrest. Verbally refusing to submit to being arrested.... really?

    Did you see the part where the police gave him CPR after? What a great police force they have there.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The, "choke hold", didn't kill him.
    It contributed to his death - unless you're claiming he would have had a coronary and dropped dead right there if the police didn't drag him to the ground and choke him.

    And that's what I'm missing in this case.... I want to see a jury look at that evidence and make a ruling. In this particular case, it warranted a jury reviewing what the police did and how they did it.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yes, he was resisting arrest. He started resisting arrest when he verbally refused to submit to being arrested.
    So he deserved to be choked to death? Which chokehold is against the law in NY?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    **** them. They can take their alpha-male, bully attitude and stick it up their ass as far as I'm concerned.

    I generally side with the cops. But not on this one. I can't believe these Rambo wannabe's got away with this. Well, actually, I can.

    It won't be long before the populous starts shooting back if they don't get a grip on their dominance obsession. Homey don't play dat ****.

    I'm glad I'm a law abiding citizen and I don't have to cow-tow to these mother****ers.


    Lol !!

    " **** them " ? Alpha Male Bullies ?

    Doesn't sound like you side with them at all. Sounds like you've got a personal vendetta against Police Officers in general.

    From what I saw the guy resisted arrest and then died from the stress of the ensuing struggle.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
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    What will be the reaction in NYC tonight as another grand jury chooses not to hand down an indictment for a white police officer who killed a black man who resisted arrest?
    Based only on what I saw in the video, I sure don't understand why the cop wasn't charged with SOMEthing.
    AND ... I know the death was declared a homicide from the chokehold BUT also that Garner had asthma, HBP, and was obese which they said also contributed to it.
    Maybe that had something to do with the GJ decision.

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