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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    He did not "swing his arms."
    Even the video shows that.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Even the video shows that.
    It wasn't real violent in the one video, but the evidence is clearly there that he was resisting arrest.
    Got a question. When someone is still speaking saying "I can't breathe"....isn't that a sure sign that they are indeed breathing?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It wasn't real violent in the one video, but the evidence is clearly there that he was resisting arrest.
    Got a question. When someone is still speaking saying "I can't breathe"....isn't that a sure sign that they are indeed breathing?
    Depends on whether they say it with a full voice or that kind of choking sound voice I suppose.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It wasn't real violent in the one video, but the evidence is clearly there that he was resisting arrest.
    Got a question. When someone is still speaking saying "I can't breathe"....isn't that a sure sign that they are indeed breathing?
    Probably half of the people I ever put in cuffs complained about something along the way. They were always "innocent" or "injured" or I was totally being unfair. I heard one version or another of "ouch!" so much that it simply stopped registering. If you didn't want to get hurt you had the option to just put your hands behind you like I asked the first time.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Probably half of the people I ever put in cuffs complained about something along the way. They were always "innocent" or "injured" or I was totally being unfair. I heard one version or another of "ouch!" so much that it simply stopped registering. If you didn't want to get hurt you had the option to just put your hands behind you like I asked the first time.
    Or...don't give a cop the reason to arrest you. That's been my policy my whole life and it's worked perfectly.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or...don't give a cop the reason to arrest you. That's been my policy my whole life and it's worked perfectly.
    Over the years I've managed to end up in cuffs a few times and never had any problems. I've managed to be on both sides of the equation and I guarantee that the years being on the cop side of things made being on the suspect side easier to deal with.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Over the years I've managed to end up in cuffs a few times and never had any problems. I've managed to be on both sides of the equation and I guarantee that the years being on the cop side of things made being on the suspect side easier to deal with.
    How many of those few times was it your fault?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    It wasn't real violent in the one video, but the evidence is clearly there that he was resisting arrest.
    Got a question. When someone is still speaking saying "I can't breathe"....isn't that a sure sign that they are indeed breathing?
    No, that's absurd...

    It was the homicide victim communicating his distress until the police officer made sure he stopped breathing forever.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Probably half of the people I ever put in cuffs complained about something along the way. They were always "innocent" or "injured" or I was totally being unfair. I heard one version or another of "ouch!" so much that it simply stopped registering. If you didn't want to get hurt you had the option to just put your hands behind you like I asked the first time.
    Now, I personally feel that the cops still had a responsibility to check on him and the complaint, especially with at least 4 there. And they should have tried to help him once he actually stopped breathing. However, you do make a good point. I actually saw this guy on worlds dumbest complain to the female officer assisting with his booking that he was shaking from being handcuffed because it had upset him so much. He was practically accusing the other officer of traumatizing him just by cuffing him.
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