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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Uhhh.. that just means that the officer was actively choking him until his death.
    Right, and Michael Brown was surrendering with his hands in the air.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Then what was? Certainly not you 8,300 hamburgers.

    The ME listed neck and chest compression as the primary causes of the death. I'm not a doctor but that seems pretty plainly to put most of the cause of his death on those two things and not his medical history.
    Neck compression implies he was choked to death. He wasnt. Chest compression implies someone impaired heart or lung function that killed him. It didnt happen. His heart was beating and he was breathing when they put him in the ambulance. An educated guess would be that he wasstill experiencing a heart attack at the time and that is what eventually killed him. A heart attack because he was morbidly obese, had an enlarged heart and organs, and his body failed him. It will be good for them to actually release the ME report.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Who Is Daniel Pantaleo? NYPD Officer Who Killed Eric Garner Was Accused Of Misconduct Before Chokehold Death



    This just gets better and better. There are 5-6 posters who have tried so hard to make these cops look justified because of those 31 priors and yet here we have a cop who gets off by getting on other people. He has two lawsuits people, not for selling cigarettes, he has them for abusing suspects. He settled one, and in the other his actions are correlated to the dismissal of charges. Lmao, this is the righteous cop people are rallying behind?
    So he put the chokehold on Garner...because Garner was black?
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Thanks, but I'd rather not see a million protestors encircling the cops right now. I'd like to know if I called 911 because I was alone in the house with someone intent on doing me bodily harm and I was nowhere near my husband's gun collection that there would be someone there to help me.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    thats idiotic. Just because mma people agree to clobber eachother in the face for money doesnt mean that someone with volunteer authority can beat someone in the face until they die.
    You misunderstood by a country mile. I was saying it is not against the law for ANYONE to do a choke hold. Try reading the post I was responding to.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You misunderstood by a country mile. I was saying it is not against the law for ANYONE to do a choke hold. Try reading the post I was responding to.
    choking someone is an attempt at lethal force. Period. Thats like saying there is no law saying you cant get a chair with a bunch of knives tied to it and stab someone with it there fore you are allowed to tie knives to a chair and stab someone with it. To choke someone is to attempt to possible kill them.

    If joe dirt chokes his girlfriend for 2 seconds and she dies i wonder what happens to joe dirt the hillbilly trailer man. A cop does it for longer on cam and well.. i guess we seen the repercussions so far.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    choking someone is an attempt at lethal force. Period. Thats like saying there is no law saying you cant get a chair with a bunch of knives tied to it and stab someone with it there fore you are allowed to tie knives to a chair and stab someone with it. To choke someone is to attempt to possible kill them.
    Entirely wrong if you recall we're not talking about "choking someone" but a choke hold (a distinction with a difference). Otherwise are you contending all MMA wrestlers should be under charges?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    If joe dirt chokes his girlfriend for 2 seconds and she dies i wonder what happens to joe dirt the hillbilly trailer man. A cop does it for longer on cam and well.. i guess we seen the repercussions so far.
    Never been choked during sex? Not my thing, but I did try it once with my then wife. Never seen an MMA cage match?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You said that before, but you don't actually have the information necessary to make that claim with any certainty.
    Yeah, I do. If Garner attempted to flee or assaulted an officer, the NYPD is under no obligation whatsoever to withhold that information from the public. The NYPD would be announcing it, loud and clear, in order to justify the use of force.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Yeah, I do. If Garner attempted to flee or assaulted an officer, the NYPD is under no obligation whatsoever to withhold that information from the public. The NYPD would be announcing it, loud and clear, in order to justify the use of force.
    No, you are speculating. You may be correct, but it is speculation.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    From the San Antonio story:

    The accusations of sexual misconduct are the third against Neal, the police chief told the Express-News.

    Another woman claimed Neal attacked her a few years ago but later decided not to cooperate with investigators, McManus told the paper.

    Neal was suspended for three days in September for dating an 18-year-old member of the San Antonio Police Explorers, a program for young people interested in a career in law enforcement, the Express-News reported.




    Looks like they knew they had a bad egg on their hands and didn't do a thing about it.

    There are literally thousands of these stories in recent times? I doubt that.

    There are a handful of bad cops. Nobody would dispute that. But 99.9999999% of the population will never meet them, just like 99.999999% of the population will never meet up with a serial killer.
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