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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Uhhh.. that just means that the officer was actively choking him until his death.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    why are they required to force the guy to lay on the ground like a dog. All they really need to do is get the arms cuffed. No matter how long that takes. If someone is using lethal force against a cop thats another matter.
    They tried to cuff him standing, that's when he pulled away and started to resist. The longer the struggle goes on the greater the3 likelihood that someone will get hurt. Quicker is better in a takedown (not talking MMA boys).

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So choke-holds are legal but against NYPD policy. Would that be right? (I'm still on my first coffee!)

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    They're definitely against NYPD policy but unless someone can find it, there isn't a law on the books that says it's illegal for a police officer to use a chokehold.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    They're definitely against NYPD policy but unless someone can find it, there isn't a law on the books that says it's illegal for a police officer to use a chokehold.

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    Or anyone for that matter. Otherwise the MMA guys would be done.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    "neck and chest compression" is NOT a cause of death, any more so than the oft repeated foolishness about 'homicide' being the cause of death.
    Then what was? Certainly not you 8,300 hamburgers.

    The ME listed neck and chest compression as the primary causes of the death. I'm not a doctor but that seems pretty plainly to put most of the cause of his death on those two things and not his medical history.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    "Orchestrated and trained" BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

    The choke is on wrong.

    He doesn't have his hooks in.


    If garner had a clue he could make weight, turn into officer choke hold, given the lack of hooks, get side control, and put him in a world of hurt.

    Officer choke hold is one of those dangers of "knowing a little" about something.



    Choke holds are banned by nypd.

    What he attempted was a choke.
    Hell the incorrect choke probably contributed to death. Because if Garner had any weakness of heart at all from being fat this imporper choke could have possible created even more pressure problems. The way the choke is done the majority of the constriction is on the left side of the neck. The right probably isnt even affected much. This means only the intake to the brain was restricted yet the brain blood could still drain because the right side wasnt. Meaning each pump of the heart put more blood into the heart yet would be constricted and clogged right after the outtake (the veins on the left side of your neck). Basically making it so the biggest amount of blood pressure happened. At least if he would have choked off both sides some of the blood would have remained settled in his brain.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Hell the incorrect choke probably contributed to death. Because if Garner had any weakness of heart at all from being fat this imporper choke could have possible created even more pressure problems. The way the choke is done the majority of the constriction is on the left side of the neck. The right probably isnt even affected much. This means only the intake to the brain was restricted yet the brain blood could still drain because the right side wasnt. Meaning each pump of the heart put more blood into the heart yet would be constricted and clogged right after the outtake (the veins on the left side of your neck). Basically making it so the biggest amount of blood pressure happened. At least if he would have choked off both sides some of the blood would have remained settled in his brain.
    Personally I think that having five guys dogpiled on his back pressing him against the pavement trying to cuff him is probably what caused the last pin to fall.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    To make it even more insane. This is Chief of Police Phillip Banks III. He is the one that issued the order to crackdown on the sale of loosies.


    Banks gets his marching orders from the Police commissioner William J. Bratton, who was appointed by Mayor Bill de Blasio and took office on January 1, 2014.

    Bratton gets his marching orders from Mayor de Blasio.



    de Blasio threw his police department under the bus, and implied they were untrustworthy and racist. After his divisive speech. Obama personally called and thanked him.


    Police fury at mayor’s racial smear | New York Post
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Me too. I stood behind the Ferguson cop. Still do. But this NYPD fiasco on video, that cop is a punk trying to be Billy Bad-Ass Top Cop. That chicken**** little mother****er snuck up behind the big black dude and killed that guy. Maybe it is time for a good ol' "peaceful," American revolution against these oppressive alpha-assholes. At least a serious protest. They need to be shown just how "Billy-Bad-Ass," they REALLY are. Encircle them with a million protesters and they would **** their pants.
    Thanks, but I'd rather not see a million protestors encircling the cops right now. I'd like to know if I called 911 because I was alone in the house with someone intent on doing me bodily harm and I was nowhere near my husband's gun collection that there would be someone there to help me.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Or anyone for that matter. Otherwise the MMA guys would be done.
    thats idiotic. Just because mma people agree to clobber eachother in the face for money doesnt mean that someone with volunteer authority can beat someone in the face until they die.
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