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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    This thread reveals we've got a bunch of members accustomed to running from the law in all manner of ways. Police are your boogeymen.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

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    A killer generally is someone who tries to kill people. I'm sorry that's so difficult.
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    1 kill·er noun \ˈki-lər\
    : a person or thing that kills someone or something
    : something that is very difficult

    Full Definition of KILLER
    1: one that kills
    By your "logic", if a patron chokes on a hamburger, the chef is a killer.
    I am understanding your inability to follow logic much better now. Thank you because that is as ridiculous as saying that the guy that built the car that ran over a person killed that person.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

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    NYPD cop in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted - NY Daily News

    So is it time to burn down this New York City bitch, too?
    Two entirely different sets of circumstances.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Just watching the video there should have been charges. This appears to not have been done in self defense and after he said "I can't breathe" they continued. I don't know the full story, but given what I see this was excessive force by the police resulting in death even after the suspect told them he couldn't breathe.

    It's completely unacceptable and if this is a legal use of force the laws need to be changed. Police are given FAR too much power when they are legally allowed to kill you in the process of apprehension and not acting in self defense.

    It looks like his intent wasn't to kill nor is this typically lethal, but with his asthma, obesity and other factors it resulted in death and they should have reacted when he said he couldn't breathe.
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    The Police Officers did not intend to kill anyone.

    He tried to take him into custody and the Man was resisting arrest.
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    That's why we have Manslaughter charges. And manslaughter it is.
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    When Fox News says the cops used excessive force, that says a lot !
    Frankly, I'm appalled that the cops weren't indicted on this one. The video is clear and oh so different than Ferguson - as far as I know, there should have been an indictment on some version of manslaughter charge and gone to trial. This guy had his hands up and there was no reason to use that much force on the guy and as Goshin already pointed out, NYPD policy states no chokeholds. That they didn't help this guy after he stopped breathing makes it worse. Were these specific cops really doing the job to protect and serve or were they trying to legally assault a black man and oops, ended up killing him and not trying to save his life. The NY community at large should be worried about this one - white, black, yellow.... any color skin.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    NYPD cop in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted - NY Daily News




    So is it time to burn down this New York City bitch, too?
    Wow, pure hatred.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    This shouldn't have to be a conservative vs democrat thing. This is a civil rights thing. If police can't get indicted on this, then the Grand Jury proceedings is just a gimmick.

    What is the point of doing it if it involves cops?

    It seems every issue comes down to two sides, the dem or repub. But there is the third of, the truth. Which doesn't bring in the political donations.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by avery45 View Post
    It seems every issue comes down to two sides, the dem or repub. But there is the third of, the truth. Which doesn't bring in the political donations.
    It's not a civil rights thing. It's not a dem vs. repub thing. Each incident must stand or fall on it's own merits. Ferguson and Brown is not the same as NY and Garner. IMO they got Ferguson right and they got NY oh so wrong. Everyone in NY should be frightened of the NYPD not getting indicted for Garner's death.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's not a civil rights thing. It's not a dem vs. repub thing. Each incident must stand or fall on it's own merits. Ferguson and Brown is not the same as NY and Garner. IMO they got Ferguson right and they got NY oh so wrong. Everyone in NY should be frightened of the NYPD not getting indicted for Garner's death.
    Seriously? Indict the entire NYPD? What would bail be for ~34,000 NYPD officers?
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    For those of you who don't live in NY...
    NYC has 5 boroughs.
    The smallest and Whitest is Staten Island/Richmond County where THIS case was presented.

    Many cops live on Staten Island, whose overall population is heavily Italian/Irish. The same (Italian?) as the 'Choking' cop and the Same makeup of our mostly courageous Police and Fire Depts:

    Demographics of Staten Island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "...Whites are the racial majority in Staten Island. Of the borough's 491,000 people, over 382,000 are white, which is over three-quarters (75.7%) of the population. Over 323,000 non-Hispanic whites reside in the borough, and they make up 65.8% of the population. The Caucasian population is largely Italian and Irish. Sizable communities of Germans, Russians, Albanians and Poles are present. There are over 175,000 Italian Americans living in Staten Island, and they make up over one-third (35.7%) of the population. Roughly 65,000 Irish Americans live in the borough, and they make up over one-eighth (13.2%) of the population. People of German, Russian, and Polish descent make up 5.7, 3.8, and 3.4% of the population, respectively.

    Compared to other New York City boroughs, Blacks are a relatively Small percentage of Staten Island's residents."..."

    I don't know the Grand Jury Make-up, but a non-indictment in THIS borough is NOT a surprise.
    A conviction IMO would be near Impossible, even if an indictment happened.
    Then again, this is happening Nationally.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Seriously? Indict the entire NYPD? What would bail be for ~34,000 NYPD officers?

    That's not what I meant - obviously only a few NY cops were part of this and would be indicted.
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