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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    again, it was a bloodflow choke, not a wind pipe choke.
    So?...........
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    No kidding. So what's your excuse for stating that the cops didn't kill Garner, as if that was a fact when the cause of death was announced months ago and is not under dispute?
    I've already posted my evidence. Choking wasn't the cause of death, just like Michael Brown didn't have his hands up, surrendering.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again no one defending choke holds as proper police procedure. And you so obviously only know choke holds from watching MMA. There don't need to be hooks or side controls.

    I have a brown belt from renzo gracie and I trained under a ralph gracie school for years.. You were saying?


    Basic escape from such a choke is to make weight. grab the arm and elbow lift, turn into the guy (who usually has hooks in), and get into his guard. Jits 101 bro.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I'm not disputing garner was the biggest contributer to his death.


    My point is, we in this country shouldn't be putting citizens in choke holds over suspicion of selling loose cigarettes.


    Diplomacy would have been the quiver I would have chosen over my bad ass choke holds.
    Dude, how many times does it have to be posted in a 190 page thread - no one is defending some right for police to use the choke hold. What is being said, and the GJ agrees, it that it wasn't illegal in this instance, just against department policy. For which the officer will be fired.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I can do one, a weak one yes, hell I'm old, and yes I am familiar. Are you, or is this the armchair speaking?
    Quite. 20+ years of wrestling including 3 of D1, plus 7+ years of MMA and BJJ.

    How can you claim familiarity and not know that a rear naked from behind and on top can put a crap ton of pressure on your chest?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I have a brown belt from renzo gracie and I trained under a ralph gracie school for years.. You were saying?


    Basic escape from such a choke is to make weight. grab the arm and elbow lift, turn into the guy (who usually has hooks in), and get into his guard. Jits 101 bro.
    Where out of? I've never formally gone through the Gracie school but I've rolled with a bunch of guys who have in the pgh area.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I have a brown belt from renzo gracie and I trained under a ralph gracie school for years.. You were saying?


    Basic escape from such a choke is to make weight. grab the arm and elbow lift, turn into the guy (who usually has hooks in), and get into his guard. Jits 101 bro.
    Precisely as I was saying then, except you're not armchairing it, you're just ignoring that MMA style choke holds that you were trained in are not the same as the choke hold at discussion here.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I've already posted my evidence. Choking wasn't the cause of death, just like Michael Brown didn't have his hands up, surrendering.
    Your evidence that conflicts with the coroner? You do realize that's not the way these things work, right? You don't get to make up your own cause of death.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Where out of? I've never formally gone through the Gracie school but I've rolled with a bunch of guys who have in the pgh area.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Quite. 20+ years of wrestling including 3 of D1, plus 7+ years of MMA and BJJ.

    How can you claim familiarity and not know that a rear naked from behind and on top can put a crap ton of pressure on your chest?
    Read my response to ReverendHellh0und. No one was going for a rear naked choke.

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