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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Another issue, is you noticed there were no beat cops?

    It's not high speed, low drag to be a beat cop anymore......

    A beat cop would have known Eric and handled it with diplomacy.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Really? The thread is into page 189, that sort of silliness has been well covered already.
    Sorry...but this one is on video.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    No Indictment in Chokehold Death [W:1903,2680]The baiting and flaming going on needs to cease. Stick to discussing the topic without the extraneous additions or comments

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Really? The thread is into page 189, that sort of silliness has been well covered already.
    Apparently not. There are people who have been in this thread since the beginning still claiming to know things they can not know about why the police chose to use force to subdue Garner. Hell, there are still those insinuating that the police knew their use of force could be fatal.

    Looking at Eric Garner in those videos reminds me a lot of Michael Clark Duncan. Nobody could know by looking at Duncan that he had a weak heart. Look at the arms and shoulders on Garner alone, the man was gigantic.

    No matter how much people want to deny it, the simple fact remains that there is a different amount of force needed to subdue a man the size of Garner than there is the average person. It happened to be that that amount of force was also fatal to a person as frail as Eric Garner was.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Apparently not. There are people who have been in this thread since the beginning still claiming to know things they can not know about why the police chose to use force to subdue Garner. Hell, there are still those insinuating that the police knew their use of force could be fatal.

    Looking at Eric Garner in those videos reminds me a lot of Michael Clark Duncan. Nobody could know by looking at Duncan that he had a weak heart. Look at the arms and shoulders on Garner alone, the man was gigantic.

    No matter how much people want to deny it, the simple fact remains that there is a different amount of force needed to subdue a man the size of Garner than there is the average person. It happened to be that that amount of force was also fatal to a person as frail as Eric Garner was.


    Why again were we subduing said "man of size"?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I'm not going to stop pointing out your false characterizations, Hatuey. You are the one assuming you know what happened when you actually don't have the information. You are building a narrative on Eric Garner did nothing wrong, my telling you that you have no grounds to make the assumption is not a what it, it is a rational assessment of the lack of evidence on your part.

    I mean, you sail past the what ifs right into wholly ignorant assumptions of what happened.
    It does not matter what he did or did not do wrong before he was confronted by the police. It does not matter if he yelled or did not yell at the police. It does not matter what he said or did not say. It does not matter if Garner was a white supremacist, a drug dealer, a 90 year old lady, or Rambo.

    The bottom line is that he was unarmed and did not initiate any violence. That is enough for a thorough investigation and a trial. Period.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Another issue, is you noticed there were no beat cops?

    It's not high speed, low drag to be a beat cop anymore......

    A beat cop would have known Eric and handled it with diplomacy.
    What makes you think none of these were beat cops? A beat cop would know he's a seller and would be moving him on whenever he found him on his beat. Kinda like what started this whole thing.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    False characterizations of your what if arguments? They are "What Ifs". Do you have any evidence that something did happen? No? Then why are the alleged missing pieces so important?
    I didn't make a what if argument. You just keep trolling that I did.

    The only thing he did wrong was make police notice him for stopping a fight.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Why again were we subduing said "man of size"?
    Because he wouldn't go peacefully. This was his choice.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Apparently not. There are people who have been in this thread since the beginning still claiming to know things they can not know about why the police chose to use force to subdue Garner. Hell, there are still those insinuating that the police knew their use of force could be fatal.

    Looking at Eric Garner in those videos reminds me a lot of Michael Clark Duncan. Nobody could know by looking at Duncan that he had a weak heart. Look at the arms and shoulders on Garner alone, the man was gigantic.

    No matter how much people want to deny it, the simple fact remains that there is a different amount of force needed to subdue a man the size of Garner than there is the average person. It happened to be that that amount of force was also fatal to a person as frail as Eric Garner was.
    It doesn't matter if it was Michael Clark Duncan. Being big and black does not give the police the right to use ANY force on you. You don't get to say.. hey that guy is really big and if he were to be violent I might be in trouble. Sorry, there's no right for the police to be pre-emptively violent unless there's an actual threat.

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