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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncensored2008 View Post
    Yet this was nothing more than failure to pay a nuisance tax. It is impossible to deny that excessive force was used for an infraction.
    I agree with the sentiment that excessive force may have been used, but I sure wish people would stop insinuating that Eric Garner is dead because he didn't collect tax. That's just plainly inane. The police didn't walk up to Eric Garner and say, hey did you collect tax on that sale? No? Bam, you're dead.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The video is VERY telling. The police officer grabbed him from behind in a poorly locked in choke hold for 8 seconds until the man was on the ground. The hold was then released and he was held on the ground while being cuffed. He was not shouting "I cant breathe" while the 'choke hold' was applied but while he was on the ground. Thats far more indicative of a heart attack than anything else but what is certain is that it was NOT caused by a choke hold.

    The fallback position is "the police caused his death". That is not correct. He decided to be combative with law enforcement and that had the EXACT SAME result it will have in ANY situation involving ANYONE. Law enforcement will win. You and everyone here arguing against the police KNOW that to be fact. NONE of you are stupid enough to openly advocate for citizens to physically resist arrest and none of you are stupid enough to actually do it yourself. He did it and you KNOW he did it. Because he did it and because he was 200 pounds overweight, had an enlarged heart, hypertension, weight caused apnea, asthma, and numerous other weight related physical ailments, when he went down he had a heart attack. The cause of death was cardiac arrest which occurred while in the ambulance on the way to the hospital.
    You know what happens when you block the veins in the neck? Pressure builds up in the heart. To a fat man a choke hold is more lethal than to a skinny man. A choke hold is a lethal tactic.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    There should be no targeting of the head or neck ever.
    No, we want all suspects to remain pretty for their star turns with the media.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What is the punishment/fine? I couldn't find that.
    Apparently, death.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    How the **** is that capatalism... Thats price by royal decree.
    I don't disagree. Ask the people of NYC why they voted in Michael Bloomberg twice under the law and then a third time by waiving the law against serving as mayor for more than two terms. The majority of the people of NYC seemed to accept his highness just fine and many wanted him seated on the White House throne, but a guy from Chicago beat him to it.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I agree with the sentiment that excessive force may have been used, but I sure wish people would stop insinuating that Eric Garner is dead because he didn't collect tax. That's just plainly inane. The police didn't walk up to Eric Garner and say, hey did you collect tax on that sale? No? Bam, you're dead.

    No, they followed orders to crackdown on untaxed cigarettes, This led to overenforcement and someone ending up dead over loose cigarettes.


    NYPD No. 3's order over loose smokes led to Garner chokehold death - NY Daily News
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    What is the punishment/fine? I couldn't find that.
    Sorry - it's really not that important to me to do the research for you - and I don't mean any disrespect by that comment - I'm just not that curious. I'm sure it's in the 28 pages of the bylaw that I provided.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    You know what happens when you block the veins in the neck? Pressure builds up in the heart. To a fat man a choke hold is more lethal than to a skinny man. A choke hold is a lethal tactic.
    To a fat man, tying his shoes is a risky proposition. Probably not wise to resist arrest...especially not for a man with 30 prior arrests.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Sorry - it's really not that important to me to do the research for you - and I don't mean any disrespect by that comment - I'm just not that curious. I'm sure it's in the 28 pages of the bylaw that I provided.


    That's fine, One can't really state then something is against the law then and not be able to state the actual law being broken with authority. There is nothing in what you linked that addressed the fine for unlicences individuals selling untaxed loose cigarettes.

    That was my point.

    It also brings us back to it's about tax, he was arrested for suspicion of having and selling cigarettes that weren't paid the tax on./

    I also brought up the possibility of a state law that is mentioned. but the actual law this man broke is still elusive.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Well you see the cops purposely targeting legs instead of the head. Cops in america seem to love to clober the head. Like this guy.



    It should be rule of law that officers have to earn their paychecks. Like these guys.



    There should be no targeting of the head or neck ever. Unless the criminal targets a cops neck or head. And even then if a old lady or cripple slaps a cop in the face the cop shouldnt get a ticket to slut away.

    There seems to be a huge case of "this cop is a ****in pussy, eager to prove on weaklings or subdued or ganged up targets" thing here in America going on.
    You DO understand the exertion shown in ANY of those videos is just as likely if not more so have caused Garner a heart attack then being grabbed by the neck and put to the ground...right?

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