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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If he broke departmental policy and someone died as a result, why SHOULDN'T he lose his job? Bonus points if you can explain it without whining about "community organizers."
    This sounds good to me.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Uh, no. Even an instance of an unjust trial does not necessarily condemn the entire system. Nice try though.


    Right!
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If NY politicians aka government hadn't put such a heavy tax on cigarette packs in the first place... then perhaps there wouldn't be a demand or a market for "lucie's" in the second place....and people like Gardner wouldn't be criminals for selling a single cigarettes in the third place...and then dying for it in the fourth place.

    It all seems to point back to some stupid law passed by politicians that makes criminals out of innocent people and dependent on the penal/ welfare system for the rest of their lives. That's if it doesn't kill them first.
    Just remember the politicians that did this had an undisclosed lean, I mean were liberal democrats. They only did it for the children.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I wouldn't have.
    Write him a ticket if he's doing something he shouldn't. Selling cigarettes isn't an arrestable offense.
    As I said before, it probably started out with something small like a ticket. Things tend to escalate if you argue with police, as they always do.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yep. Too big to fail and too fat to be arrested. What an awesome country. We are led by Marxists and have become a nation of sheep and fools.

    We have our very own criminal class. We call them politicians.
    .... I don't know, it increasingly seems like the police are a part of that criminal class

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    but the cops had NO RIGHT to instigate the detainment. He had committed no, and was not observed committing a crime, his only fauly was being known by the arresting officers for his priors.
    Fight the laws. Fight the circumstances of the law. Fight the charges. Hell...if I was a smoker, Id fight the obscene taxes that make store bough cigarettes so high priced they have created a black market for what you have described as 'loosies'.

    Look if you get pulled over and ticketed for a bull**** violation and you know and truly believe it is a bull**** violation, where do you win that fight? Do you win it on the street with the officer or do you win it in court?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You first, money.
    I just did. Look at the first word in that post. You asked a question and my response was: No.

    Now, you gonna answer mine or run away?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If NY politicians aka government hadn't put such a heavy tax on cigarette packs in the first place... then perhaps there wouldn't be a demand or a market for "lucie's" in the second place....and people like Gardner wouldn't be criminals for selling a single cigarettes in the third place...and then dying for it in the fourth place.

    It all seems to point back to some stupid law passed by politicians that makes criminals out of innocent people and dependent on the penal/ welfare system for the rest of their lives. That's if it doesn't kill them first.
    You are right; its moot. Actually, less than moot; its completely irrelevant and a diversion to the discussion of the issue at hand.

    .... of course, we could also digress into the subject about the 35 year bifurcation of the American economy into the haves and have nots that had this guy selling these cigs in the first place.... but that would also be irrelevant and a diversion to the discussion of the issue at hand.
    Last edited by upsideguy; 12-04-14 at 10:53 PM.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I do. The federal level is operating as a tyranny. It will only get worse. Nationalize the police and take away the grand jury and all we have left is a revolution.
    1) No one is talking about nationalizing the police. Not even close.
    2) Plenty of nations don't use grand juries, and have not collapsed into tyranny. (Unless you have a patently ridiculously low barriers for your definition of "tyranny.")


    We cannot always see the ones who are broken by trials for crimes they never committed. I brought a lawsuit and won. But it cost me dearly. It costs the state nothing.
    1) I have no interest whatsoever in your personal business.
    2) Yes, it does cost the State to pursue cases in court. Prosecutors don't have unlimited budgets; cities don't have unlimited resources.


    Be careful what you wish for. Tyranny nearly always is included in your bargain.
    From what I can tell, you probably think Chipotle is an instrument of tyranny.

    Meanwhile, the real tyranny right now seems to be that police can kill citizens with impunity, even when the individual is unarmed, not violent, resisting arrest by waving his arms, and a suspect in a non-violent offense.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You have not seen the evidence. Or are you claiming that you were on that grand jury?
    I've seen enough to reasonably believe that the officer should have been indicted. Not necessarily convicted, but certainly indicted.

    Or are you suggesting that no one is entitled to an opinion about this situation?

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