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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    He put his hands up and said don't touch me. He verbally resisted not physically. They didn't even attempt CPR when his body was limp on the stretcher.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Local government is still.....government. Interesting that you can't seem to grasp that. The agents of government are government agents. Again, interesting that you can't seem to grasp that. Government vs. the People. As always.
    Local cops cannot act outside their jurisdiction. And no, again, local government is different than state government than federal government. The closeness of representation is quite different.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Maybe he was just fed up. It's not going to happen real soon, I don't think, but there are a few things that the mostly-white 50-something well-to-do financial managers who really run this country are going to discover about oppressing people at some point. It won't be pleasant, I'm afraid. In the meantime, if he had 30-odd other arrests for something he thought he should be able to do, or which was basically his only option for making a living, he may have simply had enough.

    so we should all be able to do "want we want to do regardless of laws?"

    just another dude looking for the easy buck.....and kept getting caught

    no too bright apparently
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Another question:

    If you were literally being choked to death, would you calm down?

    People who are literally being killed have a tendency to fight back, which is apparently justification for killing them. Neat situation.
    This often happen when the police overreact, remember Rodney King. It's hard to be still while you think you're being beaten to death. Now, we seem to be having a rash of police misconduct. Or it could be that people are getting tired of police tactics.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Maybe he was just fed up. It's not going to happen real soon, I don't think, but there are a few things that the mostly-white 50-something well-to-do financial managers who really run this country are going to discover about oppressing people at some point. It won't be pleasant, I'm afraid. In the meantime, if he had 30-odd other arrests for something he thought he should be able to do, or which was basically his only option for making a living, he may have simply had enough.
    Maybe so - that's about as plausible as him being fed up with his life and he decided to commit suicide by cop.

    If you're suggesting that mostly-white 50-something well-to-do financial managers should just accept that some people are immune from prosecution under the laws all citizens live, you're talking to the wrong 50 something white guy. As I said previously, perhaps grand juries like this one are afraid of what the society they live in becomes if the police are handcuffed in doing their jobs. If more than the fringe have your view, they could be right.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    he put his hands up and said don't touch me. He verbally resisted not physically. they didn't even attempt cpr when his body was limp on the stretcher.
    exactly !!!!

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Did he suffocate, or did he have a heart attack? I think this ruling says it was determined he had a heart attack, which had nothing to do with a choke hold.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    This often happen when the police overreact, remember Rodney King. It's hard to be still while you think you're being beaten to death. Now, we seem to be having a rash of police misconduct. Or it could be that people are getting tired of police tactics.
    Maybe people shouldn't resist arrest. I realize that doesn't fit your narrative.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Is that all there is to the story ?

    Had the guy not been caught before doing the same thing?

    And why wouldn't someone who was breaking the law be arrested ?
    Wouldn't it be easier to just give the man a ticket? He's not committing any violence and he's not a threat to anyone.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Why were they arresting him in the first place? Selling "loosey" is not an offense that warrants arrest.
    Good point. New York City has moved toward decriminalization of marijuana, yet these policemen killed this man for selling cigarettes, typical police overreaction.

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