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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Or yours is. It really does not matter to me. The Grand Jury, I am certain, was advised about the law as part of the evidence. Stop being a little boy. Put on your big boy pants.


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by WallStreetVixen View Post
    I'm optimistic, but I'm going to play devils advocate and assume that the officer refuses to articulate the reasonable suspicion for detailing said suspect. What do you think should be done in response?


    if you cant articulate the reasonable suspicion according to (i have to look it up) the supreme court you have to let them go.

    By law the coo must be able to articulate the reasonable suspicion
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why did he need arresting? Couldn't they just give him a ticket?
    That's a question for the mayor and the city council

    Not the police force whose job it is to enforce those laws on the books
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Oddly enough, most nations have eliminated grand juries, without the disastrous tyrannical consequences.

    By the way, don't you already classify the US as a "tyranny" anyway...?
    And when these cases go straight to trial and there STILL isn't a conviction, you'll be whining about how jury trials are outdated and need to be abolished, too.

    If anything is outdated, it's race hustling and it definitely needs to be abolished.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I think the question is... Would you have arrested Eric Garner for selling bootleg cigarettes? Was he actually that much of a threat to the community? According to certain people on this forum, he was a damn gang war waiting to happen. Think about it. A 40 year old guy selling cigarettes on a street corner was a turf war waiting to happen.
    Do you believe cops should be able to decide which laws they enforce, and which ones they don't?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And when these cases go straight to trial and there STILL isn't a conviction, you'll be whining about how jury trials are outdated and need to be abolished, too.

    If anything is outdated, it's race hustling and it definitely needs to be abolished.
    Another blanket accusation meant to draw attention away from the issue, how odd for you apdst. Apdst simple question: Do you believe all of the conservative members who have agreed that this was a case of excessive force are race hustlers? Yes or no answer. No need to draw it out.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why did he need arresting? Couldn't they just give him a ticket?
    He'd already been arrested 31 times, 8 times for selling black market smokes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    if you cant articulate the reasonable suspicion according to (i have to look it up) the supreme court you have to let them go.

    By law the coo must be able to articulate the reasonable suspicion
    I know that, but lets say that police are not going to articulate reasonable suspicion, and just simply detain you (hence, the police harassment narrative). Then what do you do?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    Do you believe cops should be able to decide which laws they enforce, and which ones they don't?


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Another blanket accusation meant to draw attention away from the issue, how odd for you apdst. Apdst simple question: Do you believe all of the conservative members who have agreed that this was a case of excessive force are race hustlers? Yes or no answer. No need to draw it out.
    Do you agree that all the Liberals who only complain about these cases, because it involves a black person, is a race hustler?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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