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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Okay, so you would prefer to have some other form of justice system that the one we have created over the last eight or nine centuries?
    Oddly enough, most nations have eliminated grand juries, without the disastrous tyrannical consequences.

    By the way, don't you already classify the US as a "tyranny" anyway...?

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    What?

    Nanny state creates black markets.


    diblasio charges police to protect tobacco revenue.

    garner dies for failig to pay said revenue.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I can understand breaking the window.

    But there is that damn "your resisting" CRAP. At NO point did she resist arrest. She resisted rolling her window down. She did not resist arrest.
    She didn't roll her window down. She didn't open the door. And yes, the moment the officer said, 'open the door, I'm detaining you,' she didn't comply. Yes, she resisted arrest.

    There are a few offenses I personally would never find a person guilty of unless there was tangible damage or injury: "disorderly conduct," "disturbing the peace" and "resisting arrest." No injury to the officer? Without a video showing an attack there was no resisting arrest in my opinion.
    That's debatable. Resisting arrest can be seen as an admission of guilt, and won't go over in your favour during a hearing. The other two, so long as no one complains, is a non-issue.

    A person doesn't have to assist police in their own physical injury, including assisting in having their arm twisted up behind their back.
    You don't have to asset them, but don't resist them.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well we're certainly skipping down the path. We need to get some reasonable restraint on the entire system.
    And yet you do not want to take the one remaining legal step to secure liberty for a few more generations. Article V Convention of States. Without it there is only troubled times ahead.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Sure it contributed...however he resisted arrest. It would not be practical to give all suspects a health checkup before placing them under arrest.
    Resisting arrest and a contributing factor of death deserves an indictment to a jury trial.

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Not according to the grand jury. I am betting they have a lot more information available to them then we do. I would be interested in reading their report if it's released before jumping to any conclusions of guilt. One of the reasons we have grand juries is to avoid suspects being financially ruined unnecessarily...if there is nothing legally to indict him on.
    As I've stated now multiple times - even if the GJ evidence was all in the cops favor - the video is enough to indict the cop.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It takes a long time to get the stench of pig off, some former police officers are never able to completely escape the scent.


    This is yet another disgusting statement from you.


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    Not necessarily.
    It's so obvious, it's painful.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    "Officer, can your articulate the reasoable suspicion for detaining me"?
    I'm optimistic, but I'm going to play devils advocate and assume that the officer refuses to articulate the reasonable suspicion for detailing said suspect. What do you think should be done in response?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It takes a long time to get the stench of pig off, some former police officers are never able to completely escape the scent.
    I can't even imagine what kind of life you've led that would lead you to make such a statement. My condolences.
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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I believe you are better than this. You have not seen the evidence. You are going along with the mob.
    This is not about better... it's about right and wrong. Anyone with two eyes sees that a lack of indictment in Garners case was injustice. It had nothing to do with racists, it has nothing to do with going along with anyone... it's simple right and wrong. No indictment in Garners case was wrong.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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