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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    I told you where I heard it, the exact second.
    No, you told me who you heard it from. I asked you when they asked him to leave. You presented commentary by a second source claiming they asked him to leave. That you're now trying to dishonestly trying to exchange that with what you originally claimed you'd heard is absolutely astounding.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I will bet that when the autopsy report is finally released that we will find he died of a heart attack. The 'choke hold' was applied for 8 seconds. Just long enough to get him from up to down.
    He went into cardiac arrest while he was in the vehicle. He was pronounced dead approximately one hour later at the hospital.
    Death of Eric Garner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    You are still dodging....

    Afraid of a real unbiased trial....
    Again, learn a little bit about how our system works and you won't have to make silly statements. Jury trials are anything but unbiased. They are in fact a meeting ground, a battle of competing biases seeking to win the day. The jury signs on to one bias or the other.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I will bet that when the autopsy report is finally released that we will find he died of a heart attack. The 'choke hold' was applied for 8 seconds. Just long enough to get him from up to down.
    So the coroner's report ain't good. And maybe he died of a heart attack...induced by the excessive force used by cops to take him in.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    If you have a heart issue and if you interupt flow for 8 seconds bad **** can happen,
    If the autopsy showed the choke hold interrupted blood flow (for even 8 seconds) then I suspect that would have been the lead statement. What is most telling is that they havent provided the autopsy report. Considering the video and the size of the individuals, I truly doubt a carotid choke hold was cinched in. But...I have reserved anything definitive because we dont know.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So the coroner's report ain't good. And maybe he died of a heart attack...induced by the excessive force used by cops to take him in.
    Have you seen the coroners report? Id actually really like to see it. Can you post a link?

    Maybe he DID INDEED die of a heart attack. But excessive force? Dood was taken to the ground and handcuffed. Thats pretty standard and appropriate procedure for resisting arrest.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Still refusing to learn about the system you want so much to comment upon. In a grand jury the prosecutor's evidence is cross examined to determine if it's enough to bring charges.
    There is no cross examintion during a grand jury since defense council (and normally the accused) are not present. All evidence and witness statements are provided by the prosecutor and are examined (not cross examined) by the jurors.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    30 black men are killed by PD per 1,000,000.

    1 white man is killed by PD per 1,000,000.

    Micheal Brown's death is not an anomaly.
    If you're going to try to build a case on stats then make sure you tell the whole story. That includes key stats like breaking down by race what percentage of suspects are resistant or aggressive with officers.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The loosie sellers make more money when they buy packs from back alley importers (Canada is a prime source), or even online. These are not taxed cigs. Plus as I mentioned they sell to children that cannot buy them at the store legally.
    Stop talking. Cigs are taxed. If you buy them from Canada which is highly unlikely since you are paying the same amount. Those cigs are coming from Virginia, PA, Maryland or anyone on the I-95 corridor. Can't stop that, can't prevent it and NYC and NY itself is punishing people doing nothing illegal in the sense they paid taxes on those cigs in those states they bought them at. What NY and NYC did is make it illegal to give or sell cigs between consumers (loosies) as they seem them as contraband.

    This is about NY and NYC wanted more and more money and because they ****ed up and priced themselves out of a market and NYC sits on the border of a few states who have cheaper cigs, they had to take it out on someone.. and this someone is people who did nothing illegal just a few years ago.
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