If I am not doing anything threatening, and a cop goes to grab me and doesn't tell me I am under arrest then saying "don't touch me" is "resisting arrest"? Street cops have an enormous amount of discretion and should use it to maintain public safety and order, not create unnecessary chaos. Are they so unskilled at their profession that this was the best way they could come up with to handle the situation? This is speculation on my part but I think these cops just wanted to practice their take down skills on the big guy and maintain their rep in the district they work in, protection and safety of the public did nor enter their consideration.
If Mr. Garner was wanted for murder or rape then go for it. He was trying to take advantage of the city's oppressive taxation and hustle a few bucks. Write him a citation and call it a day. Our country is so polarized that most people run for their ideological corner and view the incident through a racial or political prism. This is about what kind of nation we want to live in and should transcend politics.
To anyone maintaining that the police were just following procedure I have a question:
Imagine your 16 year old daughter is approached by a group of cops for suspected shoplifting (a more serious offense than the one Mr. Garner was suspected of). She loudly protests. The cop goes to grab her arm and she says "don't touch me". She is now put in a choke hold and slammed to the ground. You are all hunky-dory with this, right?
Last edited by HenryChinaski; 12-04-14 at 05:27 PM.
Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken
they get their taxes if the cigs have their state tax stamp on them
but enterprising people go to virginia or nc where the taxes are MUCH lower, buy them and transport them back
you can easily make $ 8-10 a pack selling single cigarettes or more
a couple of cartons a day, and you have a thriving business
“Most of the shadows of this life are caused by standing in one's own sunshine.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Well, I just looked it up. Here's a whole article about loosies. I thought they bought them legally, but apparently they're mostly bootlegged from out of state. Ooops. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/ny...anted=all&_r=0
Thank you, Quazi!
The contradictions in your posts are getting insanely ridiculous.Btw, I'm still wondering about that fight thing, there has been no mention of any fight in the reporting I've read.
First you claim the police told him to leave in the video.
Then, when asked to show us in what part of the video, you come back to claim this assertion is based on the commentary of one person. Meaning, you can't really show us when the police told him to leave.
Then you tell us you're wondering about the fight which isn't in the video either but is only supported by that commentary.
You're desperately looking for an argument and I'm really just done with your ducking and dodging. Not only could you not support your assertions about what was said in the video, you relied on someone's commentary and the questioned the part of that commentary which doesn't help you. Here's the question again and for the last time, hell, I'll even make it clearer so you won't try and dodge: At what minute:second can the police be heard telling him to leave?
I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK