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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Then stay out of threads that aren't about Florida I suppose. What a ridiculous dodge.
    You the boss or something. I can have an opinion of anything from anywhere. I also know how arrests work and what people should do in the presence of a cop.
    Dude didn't want to get arrested again, AGAIN. And put up a struggle. And lost. Too bad for him.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Police commisoner gleefully announces it's not a choke.

    Tyrone here can teach you said "non choke".


    This is the exact choke applied (poorly by the cop)

    Lapel Choke



    I would be happy to teach it to the comish.


    note to zyph: i think it probably hurt a little more than i first thought. I'm going to have it tried on me tonight. Its still applied poorly so not sure.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    I know...it is broken. Why not a trial? Why not cross examination? Why not a real actual trial? If the cops are innocent, the trial will find that, won't it?
    Actually that way you find out less. Again the witnesses can be questioned by the grand jurors, trial jurors cannot do that. More evidence and witnesses excluded from trial, because at that point it's adversarial.

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    If a non policeman grabbed him and choke holded him and killed him, there would be a regular trial...but cops...well, that is different....
    Duh! It is different. Btw, just because a citizen chokeholds someone to death doesn't mean there's going to be a trial. Do you understand how any of our system works?


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    Keep licking those boots.
    Mindless insults because you haven't bothered to learn anything about the system you like to comment upon.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by gdgyva View Post
    do you like throwing money away?

    do you understand what a trial like that would cost?

    you think people are mad now, waste 2-3 million on a trial, and get zero convictions

    yeah....i bet that would go over really well also

    a trial is idiotic if the prosecution doesnt feel that they can win the case
    SO nave. Not prosecuting supports the DA's office defending against the wrongful death civil suit. The DA obtaining a conviction would be the DA's office working against itself in the civil suit. There were 50,000,000 reasons and 1000 saved hours of work by not actually pursuing an indictment.

    The DA put up an incredible defense for those officers too! The odds of NOT being indicted by an NY grand jury for a case brought before it by a prosecutor? 80,000 to 1. For those 4 officers not being indicted, there will be over 400,000 people who are. Basically, the only people in NY not indicted for anything brought to GJs are either police or government. EVERYONE else is indicted.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Still can't smoke a joint outside, they've made it clear they'll still arrest for that. The new policy is about possession, not use.


    I was being a litter tongue in cheek.


    It would have been better said he should have had weed in his pocket instead of those nefarios cigarettes
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, it also has a cause of death for every killing, that has zero relevance to whether they're homicides or not. Thanks for not answering VanceMack.
    You first. What was the cause of death? Maybe Joko and Tex can help you.

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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Police commisoner gleefully announces it's not a choke.

    Tyrone here can teach you said "non choke".


    This is the exact choke applied (poorly albiet)

    Lapel Choke



    I would be happy to teach it to the comish.


    note to zyph: i think it probably hurt a little more than i first thought. I'm going to have it tried on me tonight. Its still applied poorly so not sure.
    This only is the same if you 1.) lay on your chest, 2.) have someone put 150 pounds on your back and 3.) another person put 150 pounds on your head. Then have someone do it.

    Also, you have to be surprised by this. No warning. Arrange for 3 guys to do this with no notice. Tell them "anytime, day or night, the 3 off you jump me, throw me to the ground - ideally a hard surface - with a chock hold for 8 seconds with that much weight on both my back and head while chocking me."

    Let us know how it goes.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You first. What was the cause of death? Maybe Joko and Tex can help you.
    If you won't read there is no point to posting it again and again. There is no intellectual integrity nor consistency in your messages.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Lets look at this another way you have haymarket, me, hautey, limbaugh and hannity all in agreement this should never have gotten this far.

    To get to this point something has gone terribly wrong.




    Also deblasio orders police to crack down on illegal ciggys, throws police under bus when they do.


    Nyc and ny created the black market that led to sending officers who end up killin someone over loosies.


    Wtf
    Yeah - DeBlasio is looking like a f'n two faced **** who threw his guys under the bus. Remember, this is the guy who promised to reform Stop & Frisk but under him, the actual discrepancies in the searches have become more obvious. I'm fuming over the latest reports he fears for his biracial son. As if the sons and daughters of politicians regularly walked through low income neighborhoods, had to deal with aggression from cops, or had guns pointed at them by officers.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You first. What was the cause of death? Maybe Joko and Tex can help you.
    Lmao, what is this? A game? VanceMack, I told you the cause of death was police action. Do you deny that? Or are you going with the asthma did it defense?
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