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    Re: NYPD officer in Eric Garner chokehold death not indicted by Staten Island grand j

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Over reaction. Awesome.
    Reasonable reaction actually... but you are free to be emotionally compromised about it if you like.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Everything you say is true, except the part highlighted in red. Truth be told, the accused doesn't even get the benefit of the doubt in court. On paper... in theory... but not in reality. It is, however, their best shot. Relatively speaking.
    I agree. Ideally, that is where they get it. It doesn't always happen, but given the conviction compared to arrest rate, it's pretty good odds.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Is that trespassing?

    Is trespassing a death penalty offense?

    Do trespassers deserve illegal chokeholds?
    If you resist arrest, do you expect to just walk away?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ummm mischaracterizing them? If I'm wrong, prove it. You've done nothing but acrobatics since you joined the thread and I'm pointing it out. Don't like it? Report it to the FBI/police, maybe a federal agent could come and give me a ticket for it or something.
    No, I have just refused to play your what if games. WE have SOME of the facts in this case, now we're debating the facts we have. You're apparently not comfortable with that and would rather talk about other situations. Start a thread for those other situations if that's what you wish to discuss.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Depends upon city code, it is in Portland.



    Silly questions that don't speak to the actual events. Not to mention, chokeholds aren't illegal.
    Quote the statute in Portland.

    Again you are claiming anyone can run up behind anyone and put them in a chock hold - because they aren't illegal. Obviously then parents and teachers could to that to troublesome children and husband do so to their wives. Someone ticked you off? Just run up behind the person and jump on their back with a chock hold - perfectly legal according to you.

    More absurd claims by the police junkies.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Guess what, the public doesn't agree with your ignorant assessment. Deal with it.
    Guess what, "the public" (however you define that) doesn't have the information the GJ had so the public is, by definition, ignorant of the specifics of the case.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you resist arrest, do you expect to just walk away?
    If you have any evidence of "resisting arrest" why don't you present it?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    How far up your intestinal tract did you have to reach to find this piece of **** excuse?
    It's reality. I understand you support lawlessness, but let's keep the conversation in the real world.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Guess what, the public doesn't agree with your ignorant assessment. Deal with it.
    Guess what, you're wrong. The GJ is made up of the public. The difference between them and the man on the street, the man on the street hasn't seen the evidence. The GJ has.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The officer never said he thought his life was in danger.....he said he became fearful when between Garner and the glass window.





    Banned Chokehold Is Used

    Officer Pantaleo reaches around Mr. Garner’s neck. He holds Mr. Garner in what William J. Bratton, the police commissioner, said appeared to be a chokehold.

    Legal issues : The New York City Police Department has banned the use of this particular hold, but the grand jury would only consider this to the extent that it indicated whether the officer was intentionally trying to kill Mr. Garner, acting “recklessly,” or in a “criminally negligent” manner, the legal definitions of various levels of murder and manslaughter.

    Officer Pantaleo: The officer said he was attempting to use a maneuver that employs leverage to force a larger man to the ground. He said he did not intend to use a chokehold and that he learned the maneuver at the Police Academy.....snip~
    oh so now he claims that he didnt know wrapping your arm around a mans neck is a choke hold? bwahahahaha holy ****. He was simply "using the neck as leverage" and misunderstood that it happens to be a chokehold? common man... Hes going to have to lie better than that.
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