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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Were their actions illegal? Mr. Chokehold used a hold that is barred. Is it against the law or is it an employment rule? Based on what they did and what happened, did the cops have a reasonable expectation that he would die? Were they trying to cause him serious bodily harm? My answer to that question is no, they weren't. You?

    Many people are acting as if the cops were intentionally trying to kill him -- or, at the very least, injure him. They were not. Was proper procedure for a no-warrant arrest followed? I don't think so. This was a cluster****. A man is dead who shouldn't be. Somebody(ies) should lose their jobs. Should someone go to jail for 10 years? I don't think so.
    Manslaughter sounds about right.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Please get back to the thread topic instead of wasting time mischaracterizing my arguments, you're just not very good at it.
    Ummm mischaracterizing them? If I'm wrong, prove it. You've done nothing but acrobatics since you joined the thread and I'm pointing it out. Don't like it? Report it to the FBI/police, maybe a federal agent could come and give me a ticket for it or something.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Is that trespassing?
    Depends upon city code, it is in Portland.

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    Is trespassing a death penalty offense?

    Do trespassers deserve illegal chokeholds?
    Silly questions that don't speak to the actual events. Not to mention, chokeholds aren't illegal.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Is all killing criminal?
    No... but this one was.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Again, the police intent was not to kill Eric Garner. Your ignorant "death sentence" bulls*** only hurts your already week argument.
    DUIs never intend to kill anyone either. In your view, they have the PERFECT defense.

    It is 100% certain they ASSAULTED the man - the question only being if it was legal to do so.

    BUT you continue to claim there is only ONE crime anyone can every commit ' manslaughter/murder." Every other criminal change and conviction of any kind against anyone should be dismissed according to you as there are NO other possible crimes anyone can commit.

    It can not be proven Michael Brown was trying to kill officer Wilson when he slugged him, therefore you stance is that Michael Brown committed no crime.

    BUT, then, Gardener didn't intend to kill anyone either, so therefore in your logic he had committed no crime.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

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    It feels like from watching the news America is ready to boil over.
    That's what the race hustlers are shooting for.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    So, cops are who you call when a cop does something wrong.

    Nice setup.

    Keep apologizing for thugs.

    Hey, you asked the question I gave you the answer. Don't try to hide your ignorance by attacking me.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Guess what, the GJ doesn't agree with your ignorant assessment. Deal with it.
    Guess what, the public doesn't agree with your ignorant assessment. Deal with it.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, those other 31 times he'd been caught for the same thing don't mean a thing.
    Past arrest should have no barring on current situations. There is a reason why your Juvie record is "sealed" and being caught selling a cig for whatever amount is PEANUTS in the world of "crime".
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Still lying? Here you are:

    You made the what if argument based on a scenario only you seem to control. He wasn't combative at any point so there is no reason to suggest that if he'd be healthy, he would have been. Or do you know something we don't?
    That isn't a "What if". That is a statement of why the police chose the method they did to take him down. The police didn't know that Garner had one foot in the grave so they weren't dealing with a "What If" either. They were dealing with a huge irate man.

    Didn't argue that. I argued police action led to his death.
    And the police action was in response to what? We don't have that video. If the police had justification to arrest Garner and he resisted do you still call it murder?

    There are literally 4 or 5 other videos filling in the blanks of what happened. There is zero evidence he proved to be combative in whatever was omitted. There aren't reports from the police. There isn't testimony from any witness. You're essentially applying the what if argument here again. Nobody is buying it.
    Show me another video that fills in the blanks.
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