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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What the people whose property he was trespassing on? Screw'em? They just have to deal with it?
    How far up your intestinal tract did you have to reach to find this piece of **** excuse?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post


    If anyone is interested in seeing how another cop handled a similar situation. A guy is essentially waving his hands in front of an officer, getting people to surround him, and lecturing a cop on the legality of his actions, while carrying a god damn boa on his neck. What does the cop do? Remain calm, and address the situation with seriousness. If we were to follow the what if arguments of some of the police brutality apologists, he should have been shot to death and his snake should have been used to keep his body from falling from the stretcher.
    Not a similar situation in any way and a further attempt to play games rather than address the actual event that is the thread topic.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    An answer to which we do not have the evidence to determine.
    Ummmm... he provided an answer to a what if question that can't be answered either way. His question is what if he'd been like this? Well, that's what makes it a ridiculous argument. Stop being an apologist.

    From what we do know it appears that the police were acting legally.
    Using policies they banned themselves from using years ago? You're joking... right?

    For preemptive purposes, the chokehold is not illegal, just against department policy.
    Lol, your weaving and dodging is ridiculous. If they are barred from using that practice, is it legal for them to use it? You're splitting hairs.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    He was murdered. The Coroner ruled his death a homicide. The question is whether or not this homicide was justified or not. I say it was not justified and at the least, the policeman should have been charged with manslaughter.
    Great...you, Joko, and Hatuey are all thinking alike. Now...what did he DIE of?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Whether cig sales should be taxed by the city or not just does not matter in this case. Whether it should be a criminal act to sell cigs without the required tax is also without application here. The man died because he refused to be cuffed and he had compromised his health to the point where he couldn't handle the struggle he caused. From the looks of the event that we have access to I'm sure the officers would have preferred to cuff him standing up. He decided that wasn't going to happen.
    You have no way to know what was in the mind of the officer who jumped on him with a chock hold from behind, do you?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not a similar situation in any way and a further attempt to play games rather than address the actual event that is the thread topic.
    Ummm... he was waving his hands in front of the cop, he was screaming at the police officer, he waved his hands in front of the cop. What's different? The cop's reaction.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    The cops shoved him in and watched him fall.
    Were their actions illegal? Mr. Chokehold used a hold that is barred. Is it against the law or is it an employment rule? Based on what they did and what happened, did the cops have a reasonable expectation that he would die? Were they trying to cause him serious bodily harm? My answer to that question is no, they weren't. You?

    Many people are acting as if the cops were intentionally trying to kill him -- or, at the very least, injure him. They were not. Was proper procedure for a no-warrant arrest followed? I don't think so. This was a cluster****. A man is dead who shouldn't be. Somebody(ies) should lose their jobs. Should someone go to jail for 10 years? I don't think so.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Even for traffic offenses they arrest you when they catch you doing the same offence the 32cd time.
    So? It is a stupid thing for 5 cops to gang up on a guy for. Is NYC safer because they killed this master criminal?

    You just keep excusing cops breaking their own rules.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Civil rights violations are currently being investigated by the feds. I would be SHOCKED if the cops involved with this are not brought up on civil rights charges. I expect convictions, also.


    I still can't believe they were not indicted by the grand jury. Very sad set of events to this point.
    Not all of them. The one who jumped him by surprise from behind with a chock hold. That was an outright violent illegal assault.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If Sharpton and the other community organizers get involved it a no duh that Holder will jump in too.
    I hope Sharpton and the other race hustlers stay out of this one. They tend to de-legitimize everything they open their mouths about.

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