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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I agree that the Gardner case makes no sense and needs to be explained better to us all.

    But there's no need because Pelosi, Sharpton, etc, along with the media, have already told us it's all about racist police departments and court rooms.
    Oh, STOP.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    There appears to be a good informal rule-of-thumb to be adopted here.
    It's quite simple too.
    If an incident such as this occurs and you have to know the race of the protagonists before you decide if you should care, then you can use some self-reflection because your motives aren't pure.
    What.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Someone who "resists", then is shown putting his hands up, someone in this case, should not be dead. He did resist in the beginning, then he is shown putting his hands in the air, the police did not have to kill this man (by using a banned police chokehold), they didnt have to kill him period.
    So are you saying at first; one can resist, attempt to move the officer back from them.....then put his hands up and say cmon now theres no need to do this?

    Did you know that some people tell the cops they cannot breathe when cuffs are being put on them? Even after cuffs are put on them?

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    What the **** are you talking about?
    Go back and read.....that's why they say it is fundamental.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    So are you saying at first; one can resist, attempt to move the officer back from them.....then put his hands up and say cmon now theres no need to do this?

    Did you know that some people tell the cops they cannot breathe when cuffs are being put on them? Even after cuffs are put on them?
    Did you know that some cops abuse their power?
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    So let's assume that they did? Even when the suspect has an extensive history of EXACTLY what he was accused of doing?

    Look, that kind of disagreement is why there needed to be an investigation and if Garner had allowed that investigation to happen he likely wouldn't have been restrained. It's just that simple. If he REALLY thought that the cops were harassing him all he had to do was let things go, get names of the cops and find a lawyer to help him sue for harassment.
    As I've stated before. This is the terrible solution advocated by all of the police brutality advocates:

    - If you don't like the way police treat you, let yourself be harassed, then fight long battles in court, spend thousands of dollars you may not have on attorneys, and hope courts see things your way. If you win? You may just win enough to break even. If you don't win, then you're stuck with all the bills you incurred.

    Please, never again tell us about how you're all for small government and constitutional rights? It's not only laughably false, it's just plain dishonest at this point. You're an apologist for police brutality.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I have watched this video over and over. The cop never tells the guy he's under arrest.
    Not required. If you have any doubt, it is your responsibility to ask. If they lie to you about it or say something that doesn't match their actions, then they can be held responsible, but they have no obligation to say "you are under arrest". Not from what I've learned or found out. They made it clear with their actions.
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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Go back and read.....that's why they say it is fundamental.
    I read it, and it was nonsensical. The fact that the cops managed not to kill anyone else has what bearing on this case?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: No Indictment in Chokehold Death

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Someone who "resists", then is shown putting his hands up, someone in this case, should not be dead. He did resist in the beginning, then he is shown putting his hands in the air, the police did not have to kill this man (by using a banned police chokehold), they didnt have to kill him period.
    DemSocialist, have you watched the video? He was breathing and talking well after the chokehold had been released. The unfortunate thing is that the coroner mentioned it at all. One has to wonder if there was any physical evidence that he'd even been placed in one.
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