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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    If the good people of Kennasaw wish to exclude Islamic worship, that is their right.
    No, it is not
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

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    If the good people of Kennasaw wish to exclude Islamic worship, that is their right.
    I don't think you're familiar with this document we call the United States Constitution.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    No, it is not
    Yes it is.

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    I don't think you're familiar with this document we call the United States Constitution.
    I'm familiar with it. I'd point out it actually doesn't say anything like that a local government should treat all religions equally, but even if it did, the principles of sound government should prevail over it.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

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    Congratulations, you've managed to be a worse poster than the person you're insulting.
    Thanks!
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Yes it is.



    I'm familiar with it. I'd point out it actually doesn't say anything like that a local government should treat all religions equally, but even if it did, the principles of sound government should prevail over it.
    lmfao
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is an infringement on religious freedom. I don't see a rational reason why their request should be denied given the information presented.
    On the surface I would agree with those who view the rejection as counter to religious freedom. But let me remind the liberals how frequently they talk about the constitution being obsolete in the 21st century. In other words don't tread on the freedoms I like, just those that are inconvenient.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    The people express concern over Sharia Law being established in their neighborhood. Even you would bitch about that.

    Georgia town bans mosque in controversial vote

    This is still another instance that shows us those who hate and fear the 'others' because they believe they know all that is necessary about those 'others'. An extremely observant Muslim doesn't need a mosque in which to pray, nor does that person need an imam to follow Shariah law. As with Christianity there are many sects within Islam, ranging from the extremists of al Qaeda and ISIL to the far more moderate Nizari Ismaili sect led by the Aga Khan. It is the extremists and their atrocities who get all the publicity but the vast majority of Muslims are like the vast majority of Christians.

    A bit off topic but an illustration of the political scene in Kennesaw Georgia is the town ordinance that was passed a few years ago: Georgia Town's New Law Says You Must Have a Gun - ABC News
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    On the surface I would agree with those who view the rejection as counter to religious freedom. But let me remind the liberals how frequently they talk about the constitution being obsolete in the 21st century. In other words don't tread on the freedoms I like, just those that are inconvenient.
    For some reason a bit of Googling brings up a couple of conservative efforts to repeal Amendments they don't care for

    Changing the 14th Amendment 'worth considering' Boehner says

    Rethinking the 17th Amendment
    A number of Republican politicians and conservative commentators are calling for repeal of the 17th Amendment. Ratified in 1913, it gave voters the power to elect U.S. senators directly.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    For some reason a bit of Googling brings up a couple of conservative efforts to repeal Amendments they don't care for

    Changing the 14th Amendment 'worth considering' Boehner says
    There is a difference between repealing an amendment and ignoring one. Nevertheless what you point out is that partisanship is an ugly thing on both sides of the aisle and I certainly agree with that.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Yes it is.



    I'm familiar with it. I'd point out it actually doesn't say anything like that a local government should treat all religions equally, but even if it did, the principles of sound government should prevail over it.
    You might wish to do a bit of reading about "religious freedom" cases decided by the SCOTUS, perhaps the most relevant to your claim would be City of Boerne v. Flores, 521 U.S. 507 (1997)
    Congress' power under § 5, however, extends only to "enforc[ing]" the provisions of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court has described this power as "remedial." The design of the Amendment and the text of § 5 are inconsistent with the suggestion that Congress has the power to decree the substance of the Fourteenth Amendment's restrictions on the States. Legislation which alters the meaning of the Free Exercise Clause cannot be said to be enforcing the Clause. Congress does not enforce a constitutional right by changing what the right is. It has been given the power "to enforce," not the power to determine what constitutes a constitutional violation. Were it not so, what Congress would be enforcing would no longer be, in any meaningful sense, the "provisions of [the Fourteenth Amendment]."
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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