the post he was responding to did not even include the word 'terrorist', much less make the claim ALL Muslims were.
Originally Posted by MadLib
The Irony of debate-beginner claims.
Originally Posted by Madlib
Yes, of course, Not a month goes by that I don't have to tell Obtuse debaters that They are using the most common strawman of this century "ALL Muslims are terrorists".
Well Under 1% of Muslims are terrorists, with perhaps 10-20% willing to sympathize with those acts depending on Circumstance (sometimes Much more).
ie, Osama was perhaps the most popular Man in the Islamic world in the few Years after 9/11.
But of course, I have stats on that too.
Fine, using the most liberal/UNcharacteristic Muslim countries. you're up to 5% of the overall population including exceptional Turkey, and that's about it.
Originally Posted by Madlib
Still a huge loser in allowing me and others to make quite fair generalizations about Islamic Intolerance, and for Kobie, etc, too IslamISM.
You have Dishonestly NOT acknowledged the OVERALL Stats! (the other 95%)
Further, One does NOT have to be an 'terrorist' to be an Islamist.
In fact, relevant to the stats I posted, I'd call anyone who wants Strict Sharia, ie, to stone-to-death Adulterers, Kill Apostates, and those who 'Insult Islam', and hang homosexuals, and/or wants Strict Sharia in the USA Too, an IslamIST.
(Sure, let's import them! Europe is so happy they have!)
Just as Literal Christians are called fundamentalists/'Radicals' so are Literal Muslims IslamIST/fundamentalists.
1. Only about 10% of Christians are literalists while probably a Very Healthy Majority of Muslims are [Islamist]. (yet more polls available)
2. Muslims are literal to a much more Violent/LESS Compatible with Western Values book.
Practicing Muslim reformer Irshad Manji:
"... The trouble with Islam today is that Literalism is Mainstream.
Even Moderate Muslims take the Koran as the final word of God: unfiltered, unchanged and unchangeable.
This Supremacy Complex inhibits us from asking hard questions about what happens when faith becomes dogma.
Such a path can lead only to a dead end of More Violence...
IOW, IslamISM (Literalism) (what we Accuse Christians here of being 'Radicals' for) is MAINSTREAM in Islam.. ISM.
IOW and again:
What would Literalist/"Radical" Pat-Robertson-Prez-Land do to Adulterers? Apostates?
So there is HUGE difference in both quantity and quality of Christian v Muslim ISMs. (extreme, radical, fundamental, etc)
Ergo, YOU, along with everyone else on your side in this string, has NO idea what you're talking about in not only equating the religions, but your fair use of terminology.
in a few words:
A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.
I've said virtually all of this dozens of times in as many strings for 5 Years.
No takers on these WESTERN Muslims I guess.
My string of EXACTLY 5 years ago
(read a few pages for the similar debate)
http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...fer-500-a.html (Poll: UK Muslims have ZERO tolerance of Homosexuality. 0-fer-500)
What would you hypocrites call such if it was Christians?
Can anyone tell whose versed in this topic and who not?