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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think it's clear where you stand Jet.
    Against idiocy is always a good place to stand. You should try it sometime.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Against idiocy is always a good place to stand. You should try it sometime.
    Yeah....pfft....right.
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah....pfft....right.
    So you're not against idiocy? Funny to hear you finally admit it after all this time.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    It's not a strawman at all. There are people in this thread who have called mosques potential "ISIS recruiting stations," and Grant idiotically stated that the people who want to open up a mosque in Kennesaw are the "same group" that slaughtered innocent children in Peshawar.
    the post he was responding to did not even include the word 'terrorist', much less make the claim ALL Muslims were.
    Period.


    Quote Originally Posted by Madlib
    Let me try:

    Your own statistics kind of prove that the issue is more nuanced than "muzlums terrists."
    The Irony of debate-beginner claims.
    Yes, of course, Not a month goes by that I don't have to tell Obtuse debaters that They are using the most common strawman of this century "ALL Muslims are terrorists".
    Well Under 1% of Muslims are terrorists, with perhaps 10-20% willing to sympathize with those acts depending on Circumstance (sometimes Much more).
    ie, Osama was perhaps the most popular Man in the Islamic world in the few Years after 9/11.
    But of course, I have stats on that too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Madlib
    You were very eager to discount Bosnia and Kosovo, even though they are actual Muslim societies within Europe, and are considerably more developed than Africa, the Middle East, or Central Asia. You completely ignored Turkey, which has the 8th largest Muslim population in the world yet only a tiny minority of people who support Sharia, and a minority within that minority who support death for adultery and apostasy.
    Fine, using the most liberal/UNcharacteristic Muslim countries. you're up to 5% of the overall population including exceptional Turkey, and that's about it.
    Still a huge loser in allowing me and others to make quite fair generalizations about Islamic Intolerance, and for Kobie, etc, too IslamISM.
    You have Dishonestly NOT acknowledged the OVERALL Stats! (the other 95%)
    Ooops!

    Further, One does NOT have to be an 'terrorist' to be an Islamist.
    In fact, relevant to the stats I posted, I'd call anyone who wants Strict Sharia, ie, to stone-to-death Adulterers, Kill Apostates, and those who 'Insult Islam', and hang homosexuals, and/or wants Strict Sharia in the USA Too, an IslamIST.
    (Sure, let's import them! Europe is so happy they have!)

    Just as Literal Christians are called fundamentalists/'Radicals' so are Literal Muslims IslamIST/fundamentalists.
    Of course:
    1. Only about 10% of Christians are literalists while probably a Very Healthy Majority of Muslims are [Islamist]. (yet more polls available)
    2. Muslims are literal to a much more Violent/LESS Compatible with Western Values book.

    Practicing Muslim reformer Irshad Manji:

    "... The trouble with Islam today is that Literalism is Mainstream.

    Even Moderate Muslims take the Koran as the final word of God: unfiltered, unchanged and unchangeable.
    This Supremacy Complex inhibits us from asking hard questions about what happens when faith becomes dogma.
    Such a path can lead only to a dead end of More Violence...

    IOW, IslamISM (Literalism) (what we Accuse Christians here of being 'Radicals' for) is MAINSTREAM in Islam.. ISM.

    IOW and again:
    What would Literalist/"Radical" Pat-Robertson-Prez-Land do to Adulterers? Apostates?
    Counseling?


    So there is HUGE difference in both quantity and quality of Christian v Muslim ISMs. (extreme, radical, fundamental, etc)

    Ergo, YOU, along with everyone else on your side in this string, has NO idea what you're talking about in not only equating the religions, but your fair use of terminology.
    in a few words:
    A Christian Fundamentalist is a Missionary, a Muslim Fundamentalist Kills him.

    I've said virtually all of this dozens of times in as many strings for 5 Years.
    No takers on these WESTERN Muslims I guess.
    My string of EXACTLY 5 years ago
    (read a few pages for the similar debate)
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...fer-500-a.html
    What would you hypocrites call such if it was Christians?

    Can anyone tell whose versed in this topic and who not?
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Because this is a debate board you're expected to debate using some logic, with personal ad homs being discouraged and generally recognized as the lowest fall-back position.

    Your claim that I "hate" Muslims is interesting, and a word leftists throw around with thoughtless abandon. This is why they encourage 'hate' laws in order to stifle any debate on any subject with which they disagree, Just use the 'hate' label in order to silence any dissent whatsoever.

    Far from me being the 'hater' here, that charge correctly lies at the feet of those Muslims who quietly accept the inhumanity carried out in the name of their religion. Muslims have just murdered 132 schoolchildren in Pakistan, carried out their terrorism in Canada and Australia, and you claim I am the 'hater'. The irony here rises well above your head.

    While you may admire your bold stand in taking up the cause of terrorists it is actually those who speak out against Islamic terrorism who are risking their lives. Coming out for the execution of Gays, the murdering and disfigurement of little girls, the execution of women for being raped, etc. is not really that bold at all. You speak for no one except those who contribute to these barbaric practices, either by carrying out these inhumane acts or by staying silent while others do the the dirty work.. Either way it is quite cowardly.
    Be silent.

    Keep your forked tongue behind teeth.

    I have not passed through Fire and death to belly creed words with a witless worm.

    You are scum grant, you and everyone like you that try to justify your fascist opinions to subvert the very foundations of free speech, free worship and a democratic nation.

    You and your fascist ilk are as much of a threat to this country as the terrorists are.

    Justify it any way you want, but it will not change the end result, your hateful views will never take hold in this country.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Did it occur to you that I knew who he was talking about and was trying to make a point?
    Nah. I have no time for those who choose to be coy.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    There we go! Unfortunately, that's neither who I was talking about nor the subject of this thread. I'm as hostile to Islamism as anyone, and I'm critical of Islam (yes, it does have some flaws that other religions do not), yet I have nothing against Muslims in general.
    Yes, a few flaws. In fact 24,670 TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Be silent.

    Keep your forked tongue behind teeth.

    I have not passed through Fire and death to belly creed words with a witless worm.

    You are scum grant, you and everyone like you that try to justify your fascist opinions to subvert the very foundations of free speech, free worship and a democratic nation.

    You and your fascist ilk are as much of a threat to this country as the terrorists are.

    Justify it any way you want, but it will not change the end result, your hateful views will never take hold in this country.
    Don't sugarcoat it, Bogieman. tell us what you really think!

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Blaming Islam for every terrorist attack committed in its name is really, really stupid. It's nothing more than knee-jerk guilt-by-association.
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, I don't know. Maybe the people that flew two airliners into the twin towers and another into the Pentagon, and killed 3,000 people in 2001? Maybe the people vowing to destroy us with every breath in the ME?

    Oh, and liberals ofcourse...
    And the part you really don't understand is that saying "Muslims still have rights" isn't supporting those people.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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