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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    There are at least 1.6 billion Muslims on earth.The huge vast majority of them are not terrorists.Most of the victims of Muslim terrorists are other Muslims. So the idea that Muslims are terrorists is absurd.The idea that they would support something that is most likely going to harm them more than anyone else is absurd.
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Confirmation of the point I made in the OP about citizens who hate it when government spends money but seem to be quite willing to throw their taxpayer dollars into the drain when it comes down to their "True Beliefs"

    The Muslim groups would get no money if the various city councils gave up their useless fights.

    Apparently there are some who believe Muslim Americans are only trying to raise mosques in the "most conservative areas" to take money from the gullible. Whereas I think it may be because Muslim Americans live in the area where they wish to build a mosque.
    Interesting spin. It would stand to reason that most are simply looking for a place to worship. And that may be the case here. But the comments from the lawyer seem to suggest that he is playing a ransom game, and if that is the case he deserves to answer for it.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    There are at least 1.6 billion Muslims on earth.The huge vast majority of them are not terrorists.Most of the victims of Muslim terrorists are other Muslims. So the idea that Muslims are terrorists is absurd.The idea that they would support something that is most likely going to harm them more than anyone else is absurd.
    If that is not the public perception you are fighting an uphill battle trying to educate them as you plant a new mosque in their neighborhood. What is and what should be are often far removed. For instance, no rational human being would run in fear of an inanimate object, and yet there are enough of them out there who are so deathly afraid of guns that they actually think banning them is a viable solution. Walking in to the mall where they shop brandishing rifles is not the way to temper them any more than opening a mosque next to their grocery store will get them to realize that the guys making the videos are not THESE Muslims. Hence why I said the city counsel may very well have made their decision for the good of the Muslims in question. Hell I know people who still run in fear or kill snakes when they see them regardless of if they are a dangerous variety or not. To them it is a snake, and that is how they respond. I would like to say I know peaceful Muslims, but it just isn't true. I've only ever met one and he was a dick.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    <snip> I would like to say I know peaceful Muslims, but it just isn't true. I've only ever met one and he was a dick.
    How would you know you've "only ever met one"? Not like people wear badges telling us what their faith is. I was chatting with the clerk in a liquor store once and because of his physical appearance, I thought he was a Muslim. He was from India and so I changed to thinking he was a Hindu believer - Nope, he was a St Thomas Catholic
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    There are at least 1.6 billion Muslims on earth.The huge vast majority of them are not terrorists.Most of the victims of Muslim terrorists are other Muslims. So the idea that Muslims are terrorists is absurd.The idea that they would support something that is most likely going to harm them more than anyone else is absurd.
    What makes you think that radical Islam is just about beheading or terrorist attacks?

    An Islamist community can turn your life into hell without hurting you.
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Your Country is a disgrace and their actions have no place in the civilised world.
    Which Islamic country isn't?

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Which is exactly why Egypt should ban Christian churches. Christianity is a breeding ground for social degenerates. If the Egyptian people thought it was a possibility, why let those Christians in? **** religious freedom.
    They are doing more than banning Churches in Egypt. They are murdering them.

    Egypt 'Christians Expecting Death Any Time' - World - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

    Christians Being Slaughtered in Egypt by Radical Islamists - Katie Pavlich

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    There are at least 1.6 billion Muslims on earth.The huge vast majority of them are not terrorists.Most of the victims of Muslim terrorists are other Muslims. So the idea that Muslims are terrorists is absurd.The idea that they would support something that is most likely going to harm them more than anyone else is absurd.
    The majority of Germans were not Nazis. So what?

    Muslims killing Muslims is a defense? Many Muslims are terrorists, or sympathize with them, and that is an inescapable fat.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The majority of Germans were not Nazis. So what?

    Muslims killing Muslims is a defense? Many Muslims are terrorists, or sympathize with them, and that is an inescapable fat.
    Is this an argument against first amendment rights for Muslims?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    motivation is equally unknowable and irrelevant.
    There are usually meeting minutes that will reveal the criteria used in their decision making, as well as e-mails and statements to the press that may reveal whatever biases the deciding panel may have had. In zoning decisions the deciding panel usually cites the specific laws that they want to uphold or their reasons for creating an exemption.
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