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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    It does seem a lot like a scam, but I think the courts can still sort that out.
    That would be nice. Even better would be for the attorney, provided he is found guilty of these shady dealings, was dealt with in accordance to Sharia law. Do you know what the penalty is for repeated theft?

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    They could be but, this administration has made mosques a place where we're not suppose to monitor.
    How so? I thought they could spy on everyone in the name of homeland security.
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Not all Muslims are terrorists, but it appears the vast majority of terrorists are Muslim. Is that a chance we are willing to take in your own town? Especially when these acts of terror are not denounced by the rest of those "moderate" Muslims? It seems like being "fair" is the issue, but it is only considered the right thing to do in someone else's town.
    The "vast majority of terrorists" in America have not been Muslims. They get the publicity because of 9/11 and the ongoing drumbeat of fear. "The FBI says that there "is no single, universally accepted, definition of terrorism," but the U.S. federal code defines it as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”"
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    "It's worth noting that the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front have been two of the most active groups since 1970, with 161 attacks total (and 84 since 2001). But they've killed zero people over the years — they mainly focus on setting fire to facilities, like SUV dealerships."

    Case in point the Keystone Pipeline. It is reasonable that the pipeline would be good for the country as a whole and that we already have thousands of miles of pipelines that have a very low failure rate, and yet it is opposed by locals. Always me me me first.
    No, it is not "reasonable" to believe the Keystone XL pipeline would be of much benefit to America. Yes, locals in the Midwest are very much against the pipeline because of fears concerning contamination of the Ogallala Aquifer. Here's one comment from some 'liberal' group https://www.kpmg.com/RU/ru/IssuesAnd...are-common.pdf More on the subject from the 'liberal' Wall Street Journal, Monitors Often Miss Oil Pipeline Leaks - WSJ Gee, I wonder why this was the final paragraph in the article: "But a study commissioned by PHMSA found most pipeline operators didn't want to upgrade, fearing higher costs and false alarms. They already get dozens of alarms each hour with traditional methods, which makes it harder to detect serious problems said Richard Kuprewicz, president of Accufacts Inc., a consulting firm."
    A couple of years ago we had the Westboro Baptists here to protest the "Diversity Club" in our county high school, a club for gay and lesbian students. We ran them out of town. Not the kids, the protesters. We now have a club for gay and lesbian kids in our high school. So much for conservative Christians hating on gays... They are our kids and we love them. I know that doesn't fit the narrative, but hey, that can be ignored in order to continue pushing a false narrative.
    Good for your town but it would seem to be an exception. 'I have issues with teaching it's OK to be gay'
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    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Yep, defending the right of one group to gather in worship must mean I really really hate some other group. What's that old saying about making assumptions?

    The funny part for those of us on the outside is the similarity of positions held by fundamentalists of Muslim and Christian stripe, yet the two claim they are so different.

    Anti-womens rights: Check

    Anti "sodomy": Check

    Anti abortion: Check

    Patriarchal dominance: Check

    Anti pornography: Check

    I'm sure there are more that others can add to the list
    Is that a list of the things you hold dear to your heart?
    Ha Ha! Funny! I could ask the same question of you and mine would be more grammatically correct.

    Please note the "Anti-" prefix, for your question to make sense, you should have deleted it from each of the points. So I must "assume" that you do agree with Muslim fundamentalists.
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    It is stated in the article by the attorney for the group that they have filed suits in other towns and that they have all been settled out of court. This is a group and their lawyer making a proposal that they know will be unpopular in the most conservative areas they can find, not in the hopes of establishing a place of worship but in the hope that the populace will reject it so they can hide behind rhetoric for profit. It is a passive aggressive plan to extort money and nothing more. There is nothing to prevent these people from celebrating their religion.
    Confirmation of the point I made in the OP about citizens who hate it when government spends money but seem to be quite willing to throw their taxpayer dollars into the drain when it comes down to their "True Beliefs"

    The Muslim groups would get no money if the various city councils gave up their useless fights.

    Apparently there are some who believe Muslim Americans are only trying to raise mosques in the "most conservative areas" to take money from the gullible. Whereas I think it may be because Muslim Americans live in the area where they wish to build a mosque.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Mosque != danger

    So your argument is invalid
    So you speak for the people of.Kennesaw?
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    So you speak for the people of.Kennesaw?
    It doesn't matter, first amendment. If they are denying on the basis of religion, its illegal

    If those folks have a problem with it, they are free to take it up with the scotus

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    How so? I thought they could spy on everyone in the name of homeland security.
    I posted a link here.
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Ha Ha! Funny! I could ask the same question of you and mine would be more grammatically correct.

    Please note the "Anti-" prefix, for your question to make sense, you should have deleted it from each of the points. So I must "assume" that you do agree with Muslim fundamentalists.
    If you're sure what my question was then answer it .
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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    It doesn't matter, first amendment. If they are denying on the basis of religion, its illegal

    If those folks have a problem with it, they are free to take it up with the scotus
    So you don't know if it's based on religion or simply security concerns?
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