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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    Your Country is a disgrace and their actions have no place in the civilised world.
    It shows the importance of protecting your government's secular and religiously neutral principals. The secular people of Turkey need to get politically active and oppose the religionists. I know that there have been attempts to resist, such as the large scale protests in Istanbul a year or so ago. My sense is that most Turks supported having a secular government. I hope I'm correct, since it is very difficult to stop a majority when they want to oppress a minority.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by youngturk View Post
    Sharia law.They want sharia courts.They even have hashtags like "Sharia4UK" "Sharia4Belgium" etc.
    And I can find some random person demanding that Christianity become the official language of the United States. Hell there's a thread of people who think mosques shouldn't be allowed to be constructed in the United States. (screw the first amendment, I guess)

    How many people say this? And what do they mean by a "sharia court?" Because folks like yourself will pick out the most heinous parts of the Quran and assume that "sharia court" includes that, but if I do the same regarding the Old Testament, I'm a bad person apparently.

    So I need more details.

    In any case, who cares if some religious people want to enforce their religion onto everyone else? Just don't let them do that. In America, we have this thing called the constitution. If we stick with it, we wont have a problem with sharia law, or jewish law, or buddhist law.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    If the town is prohibiting the facility use because of the religion of the users it is illegally denying them the right to practice their religion.
    In that case requiring a permit to carry a concealed firearm is denying people the right to bear arms. Not in Kennesaw though. Take a look at their gun laws.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    It's fun to watch self proclaimed atheists who spend their time trolling Christians defend Islam in today's climate as though freedom of religion really means anything to them to begin with.
    As one of the most oppressed belief systems, most atheists have a much greater appreciation of the importance of freedom of speech than members of the popular religions.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    In that case requiring a permit to carry a concealed firearm is denying people to bear arms. Not in Kennesaw though. Take a look at their gun laws.
    Is the proposed facility in Kennesaw private property? Because if so, your analogy is flawed.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Yep, defending the right of one group to gather in worship must mean I really really hate some other group. What's that old saying about making assumptions?

    The funny part for those of us on the outside is the similarity of positions held by fundamentalists of Muslim and Christian stripe, yet the two claim they are so different.

    Anti-womens rights: Check

    Anti "sodomy": Check

    Anti abortion: Check

    Patriarchal dominance: Check

    Anti pornography: Check

    I'm sure there are more that others can add to the list
    Feel entitled to control the government: Check

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And I can find some random person demanding that Christianity become the official language of the United States. Hell there's a thread of people who think mosques shouldn't be allowed to be constructed in the United States. (screw the first amendment, I guess)

    How many people say this? And what do they mean by a "sharia court?" Because folks like yourself will pick out the most heinous parts of the Quran and assume that "sharia court" includes that, but if I do the same regarding the Old Testament, I'm a bad person apparently.

    So I need more details.

    In any case, who cares if some religious people want to enforce their religion onto everyone else? Just don't let them do that. In America, we have this thing called the constitution. If we stick with it, we wont have a problem with sharia law, or jewish law, or buddhist law.
    You don't need more details, you need to be honest. You only pretend to not understand it because you have a hard on against Christianity. You don't care about the religious freedom of Muslims, you just want to troll Christians. It's pretty clear that the radical side of Islam has cast doubt on the true intent of the belief system, especially considering the underwhelming need of the rest of the Muslim community to disagree with it.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    As one of the most oppressed belief systems, most atheists have a much greater appreciation of the importance of freedom of speech than members of the popular religions.
    I was an atheist for 20 years. I didn't feel oppressed at all and didn't much care about anyone else's religious freedoms. Did that make me an unusual atheist or is your assumption flawed?

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    another instance of "religious freedom for me but not for you guys"



    They agree to every legal restriction the city attorney could come up with but their application was still rejected.

    I so love the way "government spends too much of our money!" types seem to be willing to spend lots of money fighting losing causes based on religious and social beliefs.
    This sort of crap happens in my area. They blocked a mosque from adding a pre-school and from building a Muslim cemetery on land that had originally been approved as a Jewish cemetery but the zoning status reverted when it was never developed. In both cases it was BS because there were other small pre-schools in the same area and the land they wanted to use as a cemetery is also adjacent to an existing cemetery but apparently a Muslim cemetery would be a nuisance when the existing cemetery isn't and the Jewish one wouldn't have been.

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    Re: Kennesaw City Council rejects mosque proposal

    Municipalities have had zoning restrictions for hundreds of years. Wheaton Illinois may never have a bar that serves liquer. Not because it is illegal but because zoning ordinances prohibit a bar from openng within a predetermined distance of a church or school. It just so happens there are so many churches and schools that there is literally no physical location to legally open a bar. Perhaps Kennesaw has an ordinance that will not allow a place of worship within a perdetermined distance to a gun store or range and they are just all out of space.

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