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    Re: Oath Keepers Guard Ferguson's Streets and Rooftops, Drawing Police Opposition....

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    Well, I heard Ferguson had another night of festivities. But I didn't hear about any Oath Keepers making the news.

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    Re: Oath Keepers Guard Ferguson's Streets and Rooftops, Drawing Police Opposition....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Looks like some of the people of Ferguson are going with their own security to protect their livelihood. Oath Keepers have arrived in Ferguson. What say ye?


    When night falls on Ferguson, Missouri, Sam Andrews gets to work. Andrews – dressed in full camouflage and armed with an assault rifle and handgun – climbs to the roof of a dentist’s office to begin his nightly surveillance. He’s a member of the Oath Keepers, a group taking up armed positions on the streets and rooftops with the intent of protecting local businesses.

    While some business owners are embracing the presence of Andrews and other do-it-yourself patrolmen with the Oath Keepers, many others – including police – are uncomfortable with the group’s mission. St. Louis County Police declined an interview with ABC News, but confirmed that it is investigating whether the Oath Keepers are breaking the law by providing security without a license.....snip~

    Oath Keepers Guard Ferguson's Streets and Rooftops, Drawing Police Opposition
    I have mixed feelings.

    1) I like that some people are actually willing to stand up for civil order.

    2) Are the police offended because these "oath keepers" can do a better job than they can?

    3) If something does happen, what are they actually going to do? Shoot them? Seriously? That would be chargeable as murder, wouldn't it? Given the circumstances I don't think they could legitimately claim any form of self-defense as they knowingly and purposely placed themselves in a potentially hostile situation.

    4) Considering #3 above, and the fact that they don't have the same kind of legal consideration and immunity that the police do, I don't see them shooting anyone (except in some odd scenario and/or some individual hot head acting rash), so... what's the point?

    Comes off as a combination of legitimate civic duty and small penis syndrome.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Oath Keepers Guard Ferguson's Streets and Rooftops, Drawing Police Opposition....

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I have mixed feelings.

    1) I like that some people are actually willing to stand up for civil order.

    2) Are the police offended because these "oath keepers" can do a better job than they can?

    3) If something does happen, what are they actually going to do? Shoot them? Seriously? That would be chargeable as murder, wouldn't it? Given the circumstances I don't think they could legitimately claim any form of self-defense as they knowingly and purposely placed themselves in a potentially hostile situation.

    4) Considering #3 above, and the fact that they don't have the same kind of legal consideration and immunity that the police do, I don't see them shooting anyone (except in some odd scenario and/or some individual hot head acting rash), so... what's the point?

    Comes off as a combination of legitimate civic duty and small penis syndrome.

    It says the police were looking into the legality of their license, to be Armed Security.

    What would a Wells Fargo Armored Car Security Guard do if some came to take all that cash they carry?

    I am sure with some being former Law Enforcement. They would give a warning before they fired on someone unless attacked.


    I don’t know where they came from, but I have to thank God they showed up,” Crider said. “We wouldn’t be standing here working today. We wouldn’t have a building.” What separates the Oath Keepers from other militia groups is that they recruit men and women of the military and law enforcement....snip~


    Although, I don't know if the women who are sticking up for these guys are into small penis syndrome. But then they don't seem to be complaining.

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    Re: Oath Keepers Guard Ferguson's Streets and Rooftops, Drawing Police Opposition....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It says the police were looking into the legality of their license, to be Armed Security.

    What would a Wells Fargo Armored Car Security Guard do if some came to take all that cash they carry?

    I am sure with some being former Law Enforcement. They would give a warning before they fired on someone unless attacked.

    I don’t know where they came from, but I have to thank God they showed up,” Crider said. “We wouldn’t be standing here working today. We wouldn’t have a building.” What separates the Oath Keepers from other militia groups is that they recruit men and women of the military and law enforcement....snip~

    Although, I don't know if the women who are sticking up for these guys are into small penis syndrome. But then they don't seem to be complaining.
    And they (the "oath keepers") might be helping. Even if they won't shoot, having someone point a rifle at you saying they will is still an intimidating factor.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Oath Keepers Guard Ferguson's Streets and Rooftops, Drawing Police Opposition....

    1. If they're defending their own property, fine, as long as it doesn't go beyond that.

    2. If they're hired or contracted by another person to guard their property, fine, as long as it doesn't go beyond that.

    Outside of that it becomes a grey area at best

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    Re: Oath Keepers Guard Ferguson's Streets and Rooftops, Drawing Police Opposition....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Looks like some of the people of Ferguson are going with their own security to protect their livelihood. Oath Keepers have arrived in Ferguson. What say ye?


    When night falls on Ferguson, Missouri, Sam Andrews gets to work. Andrews – dressed in full camouflage and armed with an assault rifle and handgun – climbs to the roof of a dentist’s office to begin his nightly surveillance. He’s a member of the Oath Keepers, a group taking up armed positions on the streets and rooftops with the intent of protecting local businesses.

    While some business owners are embracing the presence of Andrews and other do-it-yourself patrolmen with the Oath Keepers, many others – including police – are uncomfortable with the group’s mission. St. Louis County Police declined an interview with ABC News, but confirmed that it is investigating whether the Oath Keepers are breaking the law by providing security without a license.....snip~

    Oath Keepers Guard Ferguson's Streets and Rooftops, Drawing Police Opposition
    Someone has to do the job of protecting area businesses while the race baiters pour gasoline on the fire.

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